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weinzierl 4 hours ago

Maybe it's not about the money primarily. There are enough parties out there that want the people behind Anna's archive behind bars and I'm afraid this will end the same way as for the Pirate Bay guys in the best case and like it ended for Aaron Schwartz in the worst.

ffsm8 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Fwiw, piratebay continues to be the -to my knowledge- biggest public tracker out there, with basically every media production available.

And I think that was his point. They may ruin some people's life's... but aside from that, they achieve nothing.

erkt 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just visited two nights ago and was pleasantly surprised to see domains active with fresh magnets. The people are returning to nature.

dmbche 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It never stopped!

nalekberov 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Those are just crappy replicas of 'The Pirate Bay'. Full of annoying junk ads. 1337x is probably the biggest public tracker.

bpavuk 3 hours ago | parent [-]

and even 1337x is too annoying to use at times compared to RuTracker

nalekberov 3 hours ago | parent [-]

yeah, rutracker is to my knowledge the biggest and "cleanest" semi-public tracker.

Salgat 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If the operators of Anna's Archive live somewhere like Russia or China, there's a good chance nothing will ever come of any of this legal action. Anna's Archive's biggest challenge is just maintaining availability of infrastructure.

baranul 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If they were not physically in Russia or similar country out of the jurisdiction of the court, then they have likely moved to one or operate from one.

At this point, the court is just a willing instrument of corporate anger and assistant to help vent their frustration. The secondary purpose, is to erode rights and privacy, for a continual surveillance state and gain as much control over the DNS infrastructure as possible.

alsetmusic an hour ago | parent [-]

You really ought to read about what happened to Steven Donziger. One of the most corrupt cases I've ever heard of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Donziger

MSFT_Edging 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

For folks who don't feel like clicking through:

Chevron hired a private prosecutor who was friends with the judge who took the case, to prosecute Donziger after he won a case outside of the US against Chevron.

weinzierl 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s a big if. My bet is that they are in Central or Northern Europe, just like the Pirate Bay people. Unlikely anyone in Russia or China would care to offer a service primarily to the benefit of the western world. I bet there are similar sites in the Runet or behind the Great Firewall we don't even know about and that simply don't bother catering to us.

9dev an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yep. You can also see that in the design language and the written English on their sites and blog posts. Something created by people with a Russian or Chinese background would approach a myriad of little things differently.

jampekka an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Z-library was/is very likely run by Russians. They were even arrested by FBI, but escaped. Archive.is is likely run by a Russian. LibGen was run by Russians.

weinzierl an hour ago | parent [-]

They are all not Anna's Archive and one is not like the other. Z-library, LibGen maybe, Archive.is might be eastern Europe but almost certainly not Russia. Just because it's advantageous in some cases to appear Russian or Chinese doesn't mean it is true. Some are better in their camouflage others like https://migflash.com/ not so much.

jampekka 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

There's at least a strong case that Archive.is is Russian run:

https://gyrovague.com/2023/08/05/archive-today-on-the-trail-...

harmonics an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What are you on about? rutracker, libgen, sci-hub, z-lib are all Russian/ex-Soviet projects and cater heavily to westerners. I'm 99% sure archive.is and anna's-archive are also in this category.

jorams 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

I see your point for most of these but why rutracker? It is entirely in Russian.

hkt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not necessarily. More cheerful examples exist, usually outside the west:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Elbakyan

giancarlostoro 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or you know, MegaUpload. Raided at his home, while congress was trying to pass a bill, that allowed them to... stop online piracy... apparently, they REALLY needed that bill in order to do so.

walletdrainer an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> like it ended for Aaron Schwartz in the worst.

They’ll… be offered 4 months in prison, or 6 months with an opportunity to ask the judge for less?

I don’t know about you, but to me that seems way more chill than how the TPB guys were treated!