Migrating is such a good feeling. You don't have to do it all at once, either: I migrated to fastmail over the course of several years. Each time google did something that got my blood pressure up I went into my password manager and migrated another account. In aggregate it was a hassle, but these days I almost miss the feeling of being able to do something in response to stinky actions from google.

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patja 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I recently migrated off of my legacy "Google Apps for Your Domain" (now Workspace) account to a mix of self hosting and a regular old vanilla gmail account.

It was a real eye opener to experience how challenging it was to move my data from one Google account to another. Takeout is nice in theory, but there is no equivalent "Takein" service that accepts the data form import to another Google account in the format produced by Takeout! I naively assumed "Export Google calendar from here, import same files to there" but nope, that did not work at all. Maps data was even worse.

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sam345 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think fastmail is going to help you. They are subject to legal requirements too and probably American jurisdiction also despite what their particular position is. https://www.fastmail.com/blog/fastmails-servers-are-in-the-u.... People love to hate Google but they're just doing what any corporation subject to law is going to do.

	▲	trocado an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Fwiw that post states: > It has been pointed out to us that since we have our servers in the US, we are under US jurisdiction. We do not believe this to be the case. We do not have a legal presence in the US, no company incorporated in the US, no staff in the US, and no one in the US with login access to any servers located in the US. Even if a US court were to serve us with a court order, subpoena or other instruction to hand over user data, Australian communications and privacy law explicitly forbids us from doing so.

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BeetleB 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anticipation of stories like this are why I didn't rely much on Google 20 years ago.

Never used Gmail other than as a throwaway account.

Went many years before I had a Youtube account. Finally made one to upload some videos. I am normally not logged in.

(OK, OK - I was more concerned with them suddenly charging for a "free" service, as well as selling data to commercial enterprises than with them giving to the government).

(OK, OK - I do use Android).

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tclancy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What will the world be like in 2046?

	▲	duckmysick an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Does anyone else remember Epic 2014? It was a video made years ago that speculated about the future of the internet and media, with the end game being personalized news written by a computer. The timeline is off but the brand names are mostly the usual suspects. Rewatching it now gives me this uncanny feeling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUHBPuHS-7s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPIC_2014
	▲	BeetleB an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		The same :-) Edit: People are not understanding the humor in the question. I implied I predicted this reality 20 years ago, and he's asking for another prediction 20 years out.
	▲	shmeeed an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		That doesn't matter. The question is, who do you trust with your private data forever? To me and the parent, the answer is obvious: no one except yourself.
	▲	greenavocado an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Digital gulag of whitelisted opinions and actions you are allowed to think/perform/express

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anonymousiam 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've migrated everything from Google except for Google Voice. I have yet to find an alternative that can match the feature set and ease of use, regardless of the cost.

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-Fu 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I've been using voip.ms for over a decade, they have a great feature set and are very affordable.

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samtheprogram an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What part of the feature set in particular has been lacking in competitors?

EDIT: asking because I've been working on an alternative of sorts. I used GV a lot before I figured I could go without it/Google.

	▲	armadyl an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I'm not sure what the OP does, but at least for me I find myself chained to Google Voice for SMS 2FA use because it's basically the only phone number provider that cannot be exploited with a sim swap attack (same deal with Google Fi). And while I don't necessarily trust Google, their account security is leagues ahead of anyone else imo. I previously looked at jmp.chat but they didn't really inspire confidence on the security front.