Ironic, since Spotify started by pirating music[0]

[0] https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files...

mentalgear 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Same as Facebook: They got big by the Zuck sucking messages and content from MySpace - then Facebook afterwards lobbied to put laws in place to forbid this kind of 'interoperability' across platforms.

Youtube started out 'allegedly' by members of their team uploading pirated hollywood movies (because they had no content), posing as users to fall under the "user-content" policy to make the company not liable.

They are all breaking the rules all the way down, but when they make it, they know exactly what to do to fill the loopholes to prevent others to do to them what they did on others. That's big tech's ethics for you: Move fast and break things, then wall yourself in.

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NDlurker 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The YouTube thing doesn't sound right. They had a ¿10? minute video limit for a long time and it was really annoying to watch pirated stuff on there. Google Video had a lot of full movies before they bought YouTube and shut it down.

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sebastiansm7 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Still remember those times watching movies or documentaries by parts. Sometimes I started watching just to discover that part 8 was missing :(

edit: in previous years some anime communities uploaded episodes to photo sites. They chunked the episodes in small JPGs with the video data encrypted. Just download hundreds of photos, join them and you got the episode :)

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someguyornotidk 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Remember this :)

I also remember how we (I?) used to hard link the /tmp/RANDOM.tmp files that youtube buffered into so the video parts don't get automatically unlinked and we could then stitch them back with ffmpeg or whatever buggy fork ubuntu had in its repos. Full Star wars in glorious 240p! (I had shitty internet.)

The good old days. Back when people called streaming what it really is (downloading) and exercised their god-given right to keep what was sent to them.

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zhengyi13 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wild to see the usenet/uuencoding model reproduced on the web w/ jpegs.

	▲	sebastiansm7 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Then with the raise of rapidshare, megaupload, etc that JPG thing stopped.

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andai 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wow, how did that work? Steganography?

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figmert 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think it was 15 minutes? Or maybe it was upped to 15 mins? But yes, it was super annoying when part n of something was missing.

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an0malous 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Airbnb did the same with Craigslist posts. Reddit did the same with Digg posts. OpenAI mastered the technique by stealing basically the entire Internet.

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hollow-moe 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same as Crunchyroll with pirated anime fansubs.

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alex1138 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Did Zuck really take messages and content? I know they had a certain "interoperability tool" that conveniently only worked in one direction but I didn't know it went that far

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everyone 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://youtu.be/cBHouBDjqsc?si=Huil8xJys3VkYbGU

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testfrequency 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anthropic and OpenAI have entered the chat

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tkel 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also, Anna's Archive hasn't actually released the mp3 files. Only the metadata.

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mikae1 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I vividly the scene release metadata still showing up in their player. I probably have screenshots of it somewhere...

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troupo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My feeling is that Spotify couldn't care less about Anna's Archive. It's bad but doesn't hurt Spotify. Just like Steam, convenient distribution trumps piracy, always.

If you look at the plaintiffs, Spotify is number 8 on the list, where the rest are the usual suspects: major record labels and distributors. Seems like Spotify was dragged along because they are beholden to rights holders, and they have to show that they take this seriously, and do something about it.