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tbojanin 2 days ago

As much as I dislike flock. There's definitely a case to be made for the business model where first responder companies can generate huge amounts of taxpayer funded ARR in "sanctuary cities" due to criminals never getting actually serving sentences. If criminals are stuck in the:

"Commit crime -> brief retention period -> activist judge lets you go" loop, then you can definitely build a business model that just capitalizes on the fact that there's no consequences to committing a crime, and local/state governments have to waste copious amount of money due to the incredibly inflated demand of first responder services.

hitekker 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You’ve identified an interesting loop which I reckon is deeply uncomfortable for the Progressive type.

Nonetheless, it’s true for most voters in Oakland or SF. Just last month, a judge let a homeless stabber back on the street after he threatened and tried attacking SF’s mayor and his bodyguard. The Progressive reaction was to blame the mayor and the police— and then the newly freed homeless guy immediately broke the law again and had to be re-arrested.

duped 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Two points.

First: that's not what a "sanctuary city" is. That term specifically refers to cities that don't let their local law enforcement and courts assist ICE/CBP. The idea is that local crimes happen to everyone regardless of immigration status and we don't want a situation where undocumented people live lawlessly because they can't talk to police or court officers without fear of deportation.

Second: there's no "activist judge lets you go" loop. In practice judges are pretty tightly constrained by the law when it comes to pretrial detention. However, there _is_ a "cops refuse to do their job out of protest" loop.

And also: none of this is a technical problem! It's all political/social dynamics and surveillance doesn't affect it at all.

tbojanin 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

- I used "Sanctuary city" as a synonym for a "soft on crime" city.

- An example of who I classify as an "activist judge" is Teresa Stokes. She let out the repeat offender with 14 prior arrests that stabbed Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte[1].

[1] https://timmoore.house.gov/media/press-releases/congressman-...

tonymet 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you think the city councils who declare “sanctuary city” status turn around and tell the DAs to be tough on those same individuals?

They go hand in hand.

duped 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think you have a very warped understanding of municipal government, policy, and how it relates to law enforcement. Because nowhere in the US that I'm aware of has a city council that can "tell the DA" anything.

tonymet 2 days ago | parent [-]

Explain how it operates and why you would expect a sanctuary city to have a tough on crime DA

duped 2 days ago | parent [-]

It's very clear to me that you're not interested in discussing things in good faith, so I'm choosing not to engage with you.

tonymet 2 days ago | parent [-]

It’s clear to me that you’re not able to take a position but you pretend to be sophisticated by attacking others. Cheerio