Well, while I don't know you personally. Most working people are older than ICE.

It's actually a relatively new agency and clearly not effective.

It's a relatively new agency in name (2003), but it's not really all that new. It was formerly known as the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) and U.S. Customs.

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a-posteriori 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What would an effective immigration enforcement agency look like, in your opinion?

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willdr 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think we can agree that when they're executing innocent citizens in the street, the agency is no longer effective.

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a-posteriori 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I agree with you. What would an effective immigration enforcement agency look like?

	▲	diordiderot 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Sorry but there is no chance you get a good faith reply

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watwut 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

A little know fact is that Biden deported more illegal immigrants then previous presidents with smaller budget and without killing them. He also deported higher amount if actual criminals in the set. So, you know, whatever before ICE is now was more effective.

Also, the abuses and violence are staggering. And they managed to deport or mistreat actual citizens, because they did not cared. Again, not effective.

Here is the problem - conservative and right wing people use "effective" as euphemism for "we want to see as much cruelty and abuse as possible".

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the_doctah 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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	▲	Larrikin 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		It's pretty gross you're deciding a person's value based on if they fit your political narrative. They were all victims