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rexpop 2 days ago

OP is not a king.

renewiltord 2 days ago | parent [-]

I didn’t say anyone was a king. I was just talking about troublesome priests.

saghm 2 days ago | parent [-]

And you're conveniently unaware of the historical context of the origin of that phrase too, if we're to take you literally, since you seem to entirely misunderstand how the whole reason it was problematic was due to the inherent power dynamics

diordiderot 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Read some Foucauld. power is internalised.

People absorb the norms of their social class and start policing themselves and others without needing orders or hierarchical power dynamics.

Norm enforcement can spread faster and further than formal authority because lots of people can act on a signal whilst thinking they drew their own conclusions. Think of steve bannon's quote "politics is downstream of culture".

formal rank of the speaker is less important than that the signal comes from the socially legitimate tribe whose approval, language, and standard the subject is a member.

saghm 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Think of steve bannon's quote "politics is downstream of culture".

I'm going to be honest: if you think Steve Bannon is a thought leader, I don't think we'd agree on pretty much anything.

> formal rank of the speaker is less important than that the signal comes from the socially legitimate tribe whose approval, language, and standard the subject is a member.

You're claiming that a random stranger on an internet forum has as much social power as the literal monarch of a country. That's absurd, no matter how much fancy language you use to try to justify it.

renewiltord 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Indeed, one of the great wisdoms of history is that a mobs have no power. We are very wise men so we know that there are no peer reviewed controlled trials showing mobs having power. We call this thing Science.

saghm 2 days ago | parent [-]

A random person on an internet forum is not a mob.

renewiltord 2 days ago | parent [-]

Indeed, no man is a mob. This is true and a sign of wisdom.

rexpop a day ago | parent [-]

Smartass. What're you accomplishing, here?