| ▲ | mcmcmc 2 days ago |
| Yep. Automate the whole thing and be done with traffic cops abusing their power to meet quotas or harass minorities. It would likely make car insurance cheaper too since people would drive more safely, and the cost of investigations and arbitration drops down with readily available video evidence. |
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| ▲ | themafia 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Just make quotas illegal. Make enforcing them a felony for command staff. Lock up body worn camera videos so they can't be used for "performance review." That footage belongs to the public, for legal purposes, it shouldn't be a "tool" outside of that. More importantly, can I borrow you car? I have some, uh, stuff, to go do. |
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| ▲ | mcmcmc 2 days ago | parent [-] | | They're already illegal in a lot of states, doesn't stop it from happening. Cops aren't great at following the law. |
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| ▲ | diordiderot 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You aren't allowed to automate law enforcement because of disparate impact |
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| ▲ | mcmcmc 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Right, because human enforcement isn’t selective or biased at all | | |
| ▲ | Tangurena2 2 days ago | parent [-] | | You can at least question an officer in court. Automated stuff is incapable of testifying - which is why traffic camera "tickets" are not enforceable in every state. Facial recognition performs so poorly on non-white people that you'd have to find the most racist officer saying "they all look the same to me" to get that degree of defectivity. | | |
| ▲ | mcmcmc 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > You can at least question an officer in court. This is true in theory but not so much in practice. The American legal system only works for people with enough time and/or money to pursue justice (or whatever else they want from the legal system). Like traffic tickets on a road trip - very few people can actually go back to fight them. Facial recognition is irrelevant if the liability is on whomever the vehicle is registered to. | |
| ▲ | sofixa 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > You can at least question an officer in court. Automated stuff is incapable of testifying - which is why traffic camera "tickets" are not enforceable in every state. That's besides the point, you don't need to question a picture with accompanying information (such as location, detected speed). > Facial recognition performs so poorly on non-white people You don't need facial recognition. Car with plate XYZ (trivial character recognition) ran a red light, $1000 fine with associated picture proof of the crime sent to the owner of the car as registered in their locality. Done. | | |
| ▲ | kjkjadksj 2 days ago | parent [-] | | “Not sure who was driving” Most of those red light tickets you’d be surprised but city subreddit advice will be like “ignore it, don’t even look up the ticket number because that acknowledged you received the ticket.” They only mail it to you via regular mail. They have no clue if it actually got to you. | | |
| ▲ | sofixa 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > “Not sure who was driving” Doesn't matter, fine the owner and let them deal with the driver. |
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