With most of these things, people are against state power until they are victimized. It’s a common pattern.

With most of these things, people are for state power until they are victimized by it. It's a common pattern.

I've had property stolen. Cameras generally won't help, and didn't help. Limiting ingredient is often not knowing who did it in any case-- in most places most common crime is committed by a tiny number of regular characters. Go look at the mountains of threads online where someone had a tracker enabled object stolen and knew exactly who had it only to have law enforcement do nothing.

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the_doctah 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

People hate cops until they need one

	▲	someothherguyy 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> People hate cops until they need one that doesn't seem to be the case always, given the data on crime reporting: "Patterns in police reporting for property crime during 2020–2023 were similar to those for violent crime. A quarter (25%) of all property victimizations in urban areas were reported to police, which was lower than the percentages in suburban (33%) and rural (36%) areas (figure 2). Similar to overall property victimization, a lower percentage of other theft victimizations were reported to police in urban areas (20%) compared to suburban (28%) and rural (31%) areas." https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/reporting-police-ty... "For violent crimes, in 1997, 7% of victims stated that “Police wouldn’t help” as the reason they did not call the police. This more than doubled to 16% by 2021. For property crimes, the corresponding rates were 12% in 1997 and 18% in 2021" https://datacollaborativeforjustice.org/wp-content/uploads/2...
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	▲	engineer_22 2 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Police work for the State. The State orders them to work for the Public when it interests the State. Intervening in violent crime and property crime can be seen, cynically, as a PR move. To be beholden to the State for justice and protection is fine when the State is beholden to the Public for their consent. Today, in the West, the Public has been so thoroughly disarmed, and /disrobed/, that consent is a formality, consent can no longer be withheld. Look no further than Flock and FISA for the ongoing crisis of consent. When cops are released from the State apparatus, they'll be given the respect and admiration they deserve. Until then, it's difficult to separate them from their incentive structure.
	▲	potsandpans 2 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Most people hate cops after they need one too.
	▲	wildrhythms 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Ah yes, a pro-cop 'hacker' in the wild