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barbacoa a day ago

They are likely including xAI and the massive training costs that entails in order to make it sound like all their ventures are losing money.

Zigurd 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Cockroaches everywhere: starlink revenue won't be enough to fund constellation sustainment. Refurbishment costs for Falcon 9 make the reusability economics dubious. And xAI is just a disaster. So is Twitter.

whaleofatw2022 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In fact lumping xAI in that to cause a loss likely provides some tax benefits vs putting it with Twitter/X itself

rsynnott 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, either a company is profitable or it is not. You don't get to say "if you ignore the massive pile of burning money in our parking lot, we are profitable". Or, well, I suppose you can _say_ that (see WeWork), but you can't expect analysts to be too impressed with it.

The S-1 will be interesting; I wonder if they'll try going with a bulllshit metric like WeWork did ("Community Adjusted EBITDA", which was, seemingly, pretty much "profit, if you exclude basically all costs").