| ▲ | simlevesque 3 days ago |
| The N100 is way larger than a OrangePi 5 Max. |
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| ▲ | blacksmith_tb 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| There are quite a few x86-64 machines in the 70mm x 70mm form factor[1], which is close? 1: https://www.ecs.com.tw/en/Product/Mini-PC/LIVA_Q2/ |
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| ▲ | preisschild 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | This only has 4 gb lpddr4 memory max, 1GbE and it seems no pcie lanes at all. The orange pi has much better specs. | |
| ▲ | hebelehubele 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Lmao the hero background. They photoshopped the pc into the back pocket of that AI-generated woman. (or the entire thing is AI-generated) | | |
| ▲ | blacksmith_tb 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I have an even cheesier competitor, which randomly has a dragon on the lid (it would be a terrible choice for all but the wimpiest casual gaming... but it makes a good Home Assistant HAOS server!) | |
| ▲ | kowbell 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I dunno, I hear it‘s easy to put in your pocket and let the computer is everywhere | |
| ▲ | 867-5309 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | welcome to online shopping.. |
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| ▲ | nl 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have a Bosgame AG40 (low end Celeron N4020 - less powerful than the N100 - but runs fanless)[1]. It's 127 x 127 x 508 mm. I think most mini N100 PCs are around that size. The OrangePi 5 Max board is 89x57mm (it says 1.6mm "thickness" on the spec sheet but I think that is a typo - the ethernet port is more than that) Add a few mm for a case and it's roughly 2/3 as long and half the width of the A40. [1] https://manuals.plus/asin/B0DG8P4DGV |
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| ▲ | geerlingguy 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Also about half as efficient, if that matters, and 1.5-2x higher idle power consumption (again, if that matters). Sometimes easier to acquire, but usually the same price or more expensive. |
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| ▲ | spockz 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I can run my N100 nuc at 4W wall socket power draw idle. If I keep turbo boost off, it also stays there under normal load up to 6W full power. Then it is also terribly slow. With turbo boost enabled power draw can go to 8-10W on full load. Not sure how this compares to the OrangePI in terms of performance per watt but it is already pretty far into the area of marginal gains for me at the cost of having to deal with ARM, custom housing, adapters to ensure the wall socket draw to be efficient etc. Having an efficient pico psu power a pi or orange pi is also not cheap. | | |
| ▲ | daymanstep 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Which NUC do you have? A lot of the nameless brands on aliexpress draw 10 watts on idle. | | |
| ▲ | spockz 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I have a minisforum. Boost enabled.
WiFi disabled.
No changes to P clock states or something from bios.
Fedora.
Applied all suggestions from powertop.
I don’t recall changing anything else. | |
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| ▲ | Marsymars 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not the poster you're replying to, but I run an Acer laptop with an N305 CPU as a Plex server. Idle power draw with the lid closed is 4-5W and I keep the battery capped at 80% charge. | | |
| ▲ | geerlingguy 2 days ago | parent [-] | | The N100/150/200/etc. can be clocked to use less power at idle (and capped for better thermals, especially in smaller or power-constrained devices). A lot of the cheaper mini PCs seem to let the chip go wild, and don't implement sleep/low power states correctly, which is why the range is so wide. I've seen N100 boards idle at 6W, and others idle at 10-12W. |
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| ▲ | fulafel 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | On the other hand RPi doesn't support suspend. So which wins depends if your application is always-on. |
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| ▲ | nijave 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My Ace Magician N100 is 190x115mm Big by comparison, but still pretty small |
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| ▲ | moffkalast 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well... https://radxa.com/products/x/x4/ It has major overheating issues though, the N100 was never meant to be put on such a tiny PCB. |
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| ▲ | nine_k 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | They also sell a heatsink for mere $21 (on AliExpress), just in case you don't know how to fit a spare PC cooler onto it. | | |
| ▲ | moffkalast 2 days ago | parent [-] | | That's quite a lot for the very heatsink that still results in those overheating problems I mentioned. A standard CPU cooler will not be mountable on this in any reasonable way, that's like parking a truck on a lawn chair. |
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| ▲ | sunshine-o 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I recently tested a palmshell with a N100 from Radxa too [0] It performs well but there is definitely a thermal problem compared to other N100 based systems I got. - https://palmshell.io/slim-x4l |
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| ▲ | bawana 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Zimaboard2 has n150 and is smaller |
