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onelesd 5 days ago

we need to kill off fire departments. my house has never burned down and i will never get my money's worth.

voidfunc 5 days ago | parent [-]

This is a strawman. Look up how utterly fucked social security is and tell me with a straight face it is a good system and you'll get value from it.

wat10000 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The most fucked thing about SS is that the tax is capped. Somebody struggling on a minimum wage job is paying the full rate, while I get to stop paying partway through the year. Remove the cap and it starts to look quite a bit healthier.

rl3 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sure, but what replaces it?

You're talking a catastrophic level of pain and suffering if there's nothing to take its place.

rainsil 4 days ago | parent [-]

Australia simply forces people to save a portion of their income into investable retirement accounts. Because the money goes towards productive investment rather than funding what is essentially a government-run Ponzi scheme, retirees on Superannuation live much better than Americans that rely on Social Security. There is a small Age Pension for those who don’t have enough Superannuation income for whatever reason.

In principle the US could phase such a system in by redirecting future Social Security payroll taxes to 401(k)s while maintaining existing commitments. But because Social Security is so deeply underfunded, workers would need to keep up solidarity payments for decades without any expectation of reciprocity once they retire.

Still, everyone would be better off in the long run.

triceratops 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Social security is fucked because it invests only in treasuries. And it has an income cap.