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mcmcmc 2 days ago

Sure let’s completely ignore the noise pollution that makes living near one a constant hell

porridgeraisin 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I guess their point is that of all possible industrial usecases, data centers are the least obnoxious one. I live in one of the countries that actually manufactures things, unlike the US, and I find it hard to argue with that. Any noise pollution caused by data centers is far far less than most industrial setups. It's the same with every other resource, water, electricity, effect on local shared infrastructure like roads and commerce, etc,. Other industries are an order of magnitude worse.

Given that you _have_ to have some industrial setup unless you want to import everything (tokens, in this case), datacenters are far and away the best choice.

I'll add a qualifier to the above, modifying it to say that of all industrial setups generating atleast X dollars of economic value, datacenters are far and away the best in terms of impact on nbhd.

The jobs argument also falls apart, when you consider that it's essentially 100 jobs in return for just an office building worth of space. If you want a thousand job plant just build that as well next town over, it will take way way more space and other resources though. The reason that didnt happen even before this datacenter boom is because most manufacturing setups are fairly infeasible in rich countries like the US. I can't imagine the response to a textile plant or a steel plant if this is the response to datacenters.

I agree however, that if you colocate a gigantic power plant, then you get the worst of both worlds. Fewer jobs and the hindrance of a big power plant near residential areas. Grid expansion being slow in developed areas like most of the US is not surprising though.

But this is pretty much the best case scenario. Tolerating the power plant until the grid expands is the way to go I suppose.

phil21 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

That's only if you co-locate a power plant near it. With proper setbacks and decent design, there is very little to no noise pollution for the vast majority of these facilities.

Most folks near them do not even know they exist. Plus you typically put them in the middle of a field with berms around them, or in a light industrial park. Not across the street from homes.

Trucking traffic creates far more noise pollution. HVAC fans spinning at optimal speed simply are not a problem for the vast majority of facilities.

Generators running during a power outage? Sure. But those typically are relatively rare events. Testing each month for an hour is just not a material complaint to me.

frm88 a day ago | parent [-]

The cooling makes a lot of noise:

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/11/data-centers-ai-ele...

Add to that the health hazards that come from infrasound:

https://popwave.ai/benn-jordan/blog/data-centers-infrasound-...

People know they exist because they had to dig new wells because the water level sunk or the groundwater pollution reached high levels

https://cleantechnica.com/2025/12/02/massive-data-centers-ma...

Since managed aquifiers are rare, overall water consumption is an issue, regardless of cooling system:

https://harvardsciencereview.org/2026/02/28/re-architecting-...

As for the data enter owned power plants. Did you know that 1820 (global) gas turbines power the datacenters?

https://www.globalinforesearch.com/reports/3130730/data-cent...