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kristopolous 2 hours ago

These "all users are imbeciles that need our protection" design pattern needs to die a swift death.

raw_anon_1111 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes and no one who knows how to change an engine should drive a car. This is why geeks make horrible product people and after 30 years geeks are still waiting for “The Year of Linux on the Desktop”.

kristopolous 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What you're advocating for is more like the Bluetooth hijacking when you get in a car of transferring your call from you ear piece to your sound system as if you want to blast your phone call to everyone in the parking lot.

Turn on car doesn't mean hijack Bluetooth connection.

Let me phrase this another way: "Computer, I told you to transfer file, not strip meta data".

About Linux: it won the Unix war, the cloud computing war, the embedded war, and is the most installed OS on the planet.

raw_anon_1111 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

And absolutely no one knows they are using Linux. Google had to hide all of the Unix underpinnings and do things like this to make it usable.

As far as the BT car issue. I don’t have that issue. I turned off wireless CarPlay, don’t use BT and I connect my phone to my car using a regular old USB C cable to avoid that issue - and it’s more reliable

kristopolous 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

See you've done all this workaround, fighting with what some designer did because they assumed all the users are imbeciles.

The problem shouldn't exist. The object should do what we instruct, and not have its own opinions of us and do stuff on our behalf presuming incompetency

Let's take another example, the 4chan-ification of the web making everything ephemeral. All the feed based sites basically hide what you just saw forever. They've fundamentally broken the web and made all content disposable.

It's no longer an addressable public record. It breaks the fundamental storage and organization principles of why computers exist and the fundamental purposes of why they're networked together, as a shared communal record.

Seeing this working well goes back to original online spaces like this in the 1970s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Memory

Or my favorite quote about this

> It was like an interactive bulletin board. This wasn’t a machine behind a locked door calling shots, quantifying your inadequacies… No! You could touch it. It was a radical reversal. We all knew who the computer was. But, this time, it had no idea who we were.” “Sounds like chaos!” Thomas responds.

> “No! It was anything but!” Orion snaps back protectively, “I could sit at the keyboard and it would say”hello human”. A black woman could sit down and it would say “hello human”. Henry Kissinger could. It would say “hello human” and not for any redemption on his part.

> It’s because the computer was taught how to help but nobody had fed it Instruction on how to hate. It was then I first saw the computer as a place. A place of hope: an apotheosis of everything I fight for and every thing I want the world to be.”

Instead we've broken this and made things aggressively caustic to the human spirit and it shows. Social media is a poison because it's designed poisonously.

This is a deep and systemic problem. You didn't have to see it

It's there but you don't have to see it