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maccard 4 hours ago

If google really cared about privacy, they wouldn't have moved maps away from a subdomain. now if I want maps to have my location (logical), I need to grant google _search_ my location too.

edgineer 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not all-or-nothing; sometimes some people at Google push for some things to improve privacy. Rarely happens when revenue is at stake.

Android used to ask you "do you want to alllow internet access?" as an app permission. Google removed that, as it would stop ads from showing up. Devastating change for privacy and security, great for revenue.

WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not great for revenue, it is their revenue.

People act like Google products are a charity that had been free forever, and then this mega-corp called Google came along and started harvesting the data of innocent people who just want to get directions to Starbucks.

sathackr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

GrapheneOS still does this -- allows controlling internet access on a per-app basis.

lukan 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For those of us stuck on normal android, is there a way to achieve that? I know it used to work with some firewall apps but nowdays they all require root access.

xigoi 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Not the same thing, but you can install an app like Blokada Libre to block ads and trackers in all apps.

https://blokada.org/

psnehanshu 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Or you can set your DNS resolver to dns.adguard-dns.com and it blocks almost all ads. You can search "private dns" in Android settings app and set it there.

xigoi 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

This has the disadvantage that you can’t whitelist specific domains, which is something I need pretty often.

Zak 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It looks like you can't revoke the internet permission, but you can use the firewall via ADB. Settings are lost on reboot, but you can use an automation with Tasker or similar to set them on boot:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/1mxjnvs/how_to_bloc...

d2323 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Netguard No Root Firewall still works for me: https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard

bornfreddy 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

+1 for Netguard, it is awesome. A bit clumsy UI, but indispensible.

throw_await 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Go to settings > App > $SCUMMY_APP > Mobile Data & WiFi. Uncheck all.

Barbing an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Why does Apple not give that Wi-Fi option there? I mean, is there a reason we’d be sympathetic to?

KomoD 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not a thing on stock android

lxgr 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

iOS allows this, but only on mobile data, which is pretty infuriating. Why should I not be able to also restrict apps from dialing home/anywhere just because I'm on a Wi-Fi network (which isn't even necessarily unmetered)?

joosters 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's really annoying. I have a sudoku game on my phone, works great but give it internet access and it's suddenly full of sketchy adverts.

If I'm playing it on my commute, it's usable with mobile data disabled for the app. But when the train stops in a station long enough to auto-connect to wifi, immediate full screen adverts :(

raw_anon_1111 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Then don’t use an ad supported app? I have one as supported app on my phone - Overcast. The developer created their own ad platform and serves topic based ads based on the podcast you are listening to right now. Ironically enough I started to pay for a subscription even though it didn’t give me any real benefit just to support him until he started having ads.

I’ve found a lot of useful podcasts from the ads.

xp84 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m gonna be That Guy for a minute: if you enjoy using a Sudoku app, isn’t there one available on more acceptable terms, e.g. a single purchase or a IAP that removes the ads from this one? I’m not saying you have to pay like $3.99/week for a scam one, but more like pointing out that if you don’t like ads (as I also don’t) why not support the developers who believe in selling software to you for a few bucks rather than selling your annoyance to Google via Adsense?

amazingamazing 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google has your location either way. What difference does it make?

kevin_thibedeau 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You can lock down their usage. Limit it to three months storage and minimize sharing. They still report an old address for home and work for me since I dialed up the restrictions years ago. They have the data but it is less exposed.

amazingamazing 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I honestly don’t understand the scenario you’re defending against. Google still knows where you actually live and work trivially. If you don’t trust Google you should just de-Google completely.

lukan 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I also don't trust my government. So should I just degovernment completely? Sounds just as practical or realistic for most people.

shibapuppie 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Just move" seems to be a pretty popular sentiment, in that scenario.

amazingamazing 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You’re saying moving on from Google is similar to switching government?

bornfreddy 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Have you tried moving on from Google, and preferably not to Apple?

Jtarii 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Switching government and deleting google are probably on the same order of magnitude of difficulty for most people.

lukan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In a way, yes, as google de facto governs and controls much of the internet.

lxgr 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not GGP, but I suppose the general idea is: Granting permanent location permission to maps.google.com seems a bit more privacy preserving than granting it to *.google.com, assuming one opens maps significantly less often than e.g. GMail, search etc.

butlike 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not sure I follow. maps.google.com still resolves?

maccard 3 hours ago | parent [-]

maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps and has done for the past few years.

butlike an hour ago | parent [-]

Ahh I see. Thanks.

flipped 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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