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shermantanktop 4 hours ago

Well you can do a lot with 640k…if you try. We have 16G in base machines and very few people know how to try anymore.

The world has moved on, that code-golf time is now spent on ad algorithms or whatever.

Escaping the constraint delivered a different future than anticipated.

throwaw12 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> you can do a lot with 640k…if you try.

it is economically not viable to try anymore.

"XYZ Corp" won't allow their developers to write their desktop app in Rust because they want to consume only 16MB RAM, then another implementation for mobile with Swift and/or Kotlin, when they can release good enough solution with React + Electron consuming 4GB RAM and reuse components with React Native.

jstummbillig an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People get hung up on bad optimization. It you are the working at sufficiently large scale, yes, thinking about bytes might be a good use of your time.

But most likely, it's not. At a system level we don't want people to do that. It's a waste of resources. Making a virtue out of it is bad, unless you care more about bytes than humans.

TeMPOraL 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

These bytes are human lives. The bytes and the CPU cycles translate to software that takes longer to run, that is more frustrating, that makes people accomplish less in longer time than they could, or should. Take too much, and you prevent them from using other software in parallel, compounding the problem. Or you're forcing them to upgrade hardware early, taking away money they could better spend in different areas of their lives. All this scales with the number of users, so for most software with any user base, not caring about bytes and cycles is wasting much more people-hours than is saving in dev time.

stavros 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The simple fact is that a 16 GB RAM stick costs much less than the development time to make the app run on less.

raverbashing an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Especially if the 640k are "in your hand" and the rest is "in the cloud"