You've basically just said anyone who doesn't hold the "approved" opinion is wrong and then you called them names. But you wrapped it in extra words so that it's less flagrant.

Did you ever think that maybe people do in fact believe what they say they believe?

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tptacek 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Everybody who believes civil violence is a productive solution to any problems we have in 2026 is wrong. I don't see myself as having called anyone names; rather, I said that the point was so banal that the only conversation you're likely to see is from people who get dopamine hits from taking the edgy other side of the argument.

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lisdexan 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Everybody who believes civil violence is a productive solution to any problems we have in 2026 is wrong.

Hilarious joke, Mr. Fukuyama. You have masked goons running around, detaining and even killing people without probable cause. If the results of the 2026 midterms are not to the liking of the current POTUS, it isn't unthinkable that he would try to overturn them, even by force. Would you be hand-wringing on HN about how violence is always bad, then?

But I digress. Firebombing Sam Altman is very bad; there is a multitude of good points against it, from the moral to the pragmatic. "Violence is fundamentally evil" is just a lazy and evidently false argument that does you a disservice.

	▲	palmotea 11 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> Hilarious joke, Mr. Fukuyama. You have masked goons running around, detaining and even killing people without probable cause. If the results of the 2026 midterms are not to the liking of the current POTUS, it isn't unthinkable that he would try to overturn them, even by force. Would you be hand-wringing on HN about how violence is always bad, then? Also the official opposition is actually not really interested in representing many discontented people. It sticks to loser issues at are alienating to many except activist base (https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/16/opinion/democrats-senate-...), and seems totally fine with not being competitive in many elections. And it continues to be that way in the dire political environment you describe.

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cucumber3732842 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You said they were "abnormal" and "trolls" but you dressed it up in the sort of snooty language that HN expects you to dress it up in.

Civil violence is the backstop of literally every societal system. While it would be better if the systems work, civil violence is what happens if they don't and tends to increase until they do.

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tptacek 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Our premises are too far apart for it to be productive to discuss this.

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asadotzler 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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	▲	tptacek 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I'm walking away because there's nothing more to be said. The idea that there has to be a last word in all these threads that satisfies everybody, including random people who weren't even participating, is part of what makes these threads so awful. I'm not going to keep a slapfight going just to entertain you. Deal with it.

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G0lg0thvn 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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