> French Revolution was pretty peaceful

The elites after the French Revolution were not only mostly the same as before, they escaped with so much money and wealth that it’s actually debated if they increased their wealth share through the chaos [1].

[1] https://www.jstor.org/stable/650023

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shooly 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is called cherry picking.

The comment refers to an article specifically discussing only one aspect of a major historical event.

The French revolution is considered one of the most important events in the history of Europe, because of the great impact it had on the (among others) politics, economy and the quality of life of common people.

Downplaying its importance by trying to water its impact down to "but rich still rich, no?" is a sign, that the comment might have been made in bad faith or without proper understanding of the source material.

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JumpCrisscross 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m not underplaying its signaling value. Just that nobody that signaled was better off for it. Choosing a revolution-style coup is condemning your and your loved ones’ lives to horribleness. If that’s worth it, roll the dice. But don’t think the elites will suffer for it.

	▲	shooly a minute ago \| parent [-]
		As I said, it seems like you simply have a very poor understanding of the source material.

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livinglist 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you have any suggestions for a real peaceful approach to get rid of the French royalty?

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JumpCrisscross 13 hours ago | parent [-]

> suggestions for a real peaceful approach to get rid of the French royalty?

What the British did. Tale of Two Cities. Land and electoral reform.

One of them stayed geopolitically relevant for another century. One of them became Germany’s sock puppet.

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lostmsu 13 hours ago | parent [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_Charles_I_of_Engl...

	▲	JumpCrisscross 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes. Trial. Banana, sure. But a precedent for peace.

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achierius 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And yet feudalism was abolished, and the map of Europe remade.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> yet feudalism was abolished Mostly by conquest. Not revolution, certainly not the popular kind.

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gamblor956 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The elites that survived ended up better off. 50,000 other elites were killed during the French Revolution.

By the same token, the normal populace was also way better off after the French Revolution, since using the money and wealth of the dead elites to improve everyone's lives made a substantial impact on the French civilization that they are still benefiting from today.

In other words...the French Revolution is exactly the wrong type of example you want to be using when talking about whether violence against tech elites is acceptable.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> * 50,000 other elites were killed during the French Revolution* Ish. Most survived. And they didn’t have jets. Revolutions today are broadly accretive for elites.