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achierius 14 hours ago

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catcowcostume 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why is this comment flagged? It's not advocating violence just asking why some violence is actively opposed while others are ignored

leaves83829 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

but we haven't even proven that AI will destroy vast amounts of jobs. Some, sure, junior software engineers are in trouble. but other then that, do we really have any quantified evidence as to how many jobs have been displaced by AI? i've been looking for numbers on this but it all seems murky and wishy washy. i'm open to be convinced, if anyone's got numbers.

also, if the worst case scenario does happen and most of the population finds itself without money. there are other ways to live with very little money.

happytoexplain 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>[if] most of the population finds itself without money. there are other ways to live with very little money.

This is even more hideous than expressions of approval for individual violence. This is a dystopian acquiescence.

leaves83829 11 hours ago | parent [-]

examples include: Great depression, third world countries like ghana, south africa, etc (and countries that have collapsed like syria), also the hazda tribe and other native tribes untouched by technology, as well as other similar to human mammalian species that share our planet like monkeys, apes, chenobos, all are able to survive without money albeit with more favorable climate/physiology.

achierius 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you expect people to wait by while billionaires pour trillions of dollars into replacing them? Evidence takes years to mount; present events are moving far faster than that. Your argument is the exact same as that of COVID denialists in 2019 -- that we don't know how bad it'll be yet, that there's so little evidence, that we shouldn't jump to hasty action before getting results in. Empiricism can only go so far.

If I knew someone was spending hundreds of thousands of dollars building a big laser pointed at my house, I would not wait for "quantified evidence" of its effect to take some sort of action. The only real debate is what kind of action.

> also, if the worst case scenario does happen and most of the population finds itself without money. there are other ways to live with very little money.

If you have so little attachment to your money, why hold on to it at all? Do not be upset that other people are operating on a slightly larger time horizon than you are, and are interested in their livelihood not just today, but three or five years from now.

leaves83829 10 hours ago | parent [-]

>> Do you expect people to wait by while billionaires pour trillions of dollars into replacing them?

Well, I tried to warn my family and friends and they're looking at me like I'm crazy. So yes, I think most people will just treat all their layoffs like it's just a regular recession. Until, at least half your friends are laid off, most people won't be any more alarmed than if in a recession.

>> If you have so little attachment to your money, why hold on to it at all?

You'll need whatever you have left. The barter economy won't take the place of the primary economy, rather it will supplement it with transactions between members who have no currency. but, there will always be some things that you want to get from the primary economy, if you can.

tptacek 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have never once seen someone on HN express happiness that someone was killed in a drive-by gang shooting.

fzeroracer 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I saw this all the time when ICE was doing their business in Minneapolis. That was only a few months ago and it doesn't take too long to dig and find some truly odious posts.

JumpCrisscross 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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akerl_ 14 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the point was that people are willing to be happy about this happening to tech CEOs but would not express the same about a gang shooting.

achierius 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well for one, nobody was killed here. But second of all, sure -- because Hacker News are not the class of people involved in drive-by gang shootings; to most of us they are essentially abstractions, barely more real than the trolley problem. If you went around asking people who knew a guy that was shot, you'd eventually find someone who said he had it coming -- he got involved with the wrong guys, he shot at one of them first, he did something he shouldn't have (a common thread: the livelihood of the people involved). This is obviously atrocious: nobody should go around shooting people on the streets. But we can recognize that both are playing with fire, and understand the violence in that context -- such that the solution to gang violence is not, "moralize at the gang members until they stop shooting eachother", but rather "improve socio-economic conditions until they stop wanting to". So yes, there are elements of HN's population that will cheer these events on. But this should not be surprising -- the ruling class is playing with fire.

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hackable_sand 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The manufactured consent is very creepy.

The same thing happened with Kirk. Everyone standing up to "mourn" a neo-nazi, fake tears, rolling with the grift. Rolling with the white supremacist grindbox.

It's gross.

cindyllm 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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