This.

They recently made "efficient" even more verbose, my custom instructions can't suppress it properly anymore.

These "little" changes are incredibly annoying.

they are trying to burn your tokens on purpose to make you spend more... like introducing limits but making it so API requests continue, at cost...

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Lwerewolf 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Ehh... can't really hit "chatbot" limits on the $20 plan. Pretty sure the limits are not token based for that in the first place, and if it spews out a ton of stuff, it takes me longer to go through it and I end up asking it follow-up questions in a way where it replies... _relatively_ concisely. Still, gimme robot back. On a good note, it almost managed to call me stupid.

Codex has also been fine, but I'm guessing they know better than to tweak it like that, given their target users.

	▲	raw_anon_1111 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I have hit chatbot limits with the $20 a month plan. During the day I use it with Codex and I night I use it to study Spanish. I don’t know if the two are correlated. But then I just switch to another OpenAi and strangely enough, chat forces me into “thinking mode” when that happens and won’t let me do instant