| ▲ | vunderba 10 hours ago |
| Longtime juggler here. Outside of more complicated tricks like the claw and other specialized patterns, the most common juggling patterns (such as the cascade [1]) don’t rely as much on pure handeye coordination as they do on maintaining a consistent, even toss. The key is throwing each ball so it rises and falls in a predictable arc, so it lands approximately in the same spot where your other hand is waiting to catch it. When I teach complete beginners, I actually start with a set of special handkerchiefs. They fall more slowly than balls, which gives learners more time to react and makes it much easier to see and follow the path of each object through the air. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_(juggling) |
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| ▲ | nickcw 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| My favourite technique is after the initial two ball crosses was for me to stand in for their left (or non dominant) hand. You stand slightly behind your pupil and get them to put their left hand behind their back and you put your left hand about where theirs should be. You give them one ball in their right hand and then you start the pattern with two balls. Most people are amazed to find themselves juggling at this point. Yes, you are correcting their mistakes but it gives a real feeling of juggling for them. Most people manage 10 catches quite easily at this point. Once they have the hang of that swap sides. This one is harder, don't do it too long before setting them off on 3 and they can practice themselves from here on. I have taught 100s of people to juggle like that :-) |
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| ▲ | QuantumGood 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Some of us had a juggling party at a lake. All amateurs, i.e. few could manage much with clubs. An international juggling award winner (don't remember more than that) found out, joined us, and had a number of us partner juggling flaming torches pretty quickly, and kept pushing us into more and more techniques. The quality of the coach matters! | |
| ▲ | vunderba 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's a neat approach! It's not really the same, but it kind of reminds me of an interview they did with Michael Moschen (the guy who performed the contact juggling scene in Jim Henson’s movie Labyrinth). He talked about how difficult it was because he had to thread his arms underneath David Bowie’s, so he couldn’t actually see the acrylic ball while he was doing the contact juggling. | | |
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| ▲ | empiricus 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A long time ago (pre-internet) I heard a normal person can learn to juggle in 1 day. It took me 2 days, but I learned to juggle 3 balls. But soon I realized what you said, the need for a consistent toss. Not sure of the reason, but I always make some errors with physical movements, they are never perfect. Even with typing, no matter how much I exercise, I cannot get bellow ~3% errors. Wondering if this is some kind of genetic effect, and how many ppl have similar issues. |
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| ▲ | P-Nuts 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I haven’t tried juggling for decades but I did manage to teach myself basic three-ball juggling when I was at university (any excuse to avoid revising!) I think it took me a couple of weeks though. I’m a bit malcoordinated for that sort of thing in general. I think you’re right that there’s some sort of natural aptitude that not everybody has. Fortunately basic juggling is just about easy enough that almost any idiot can do it. | |
| ▲ | PyWoody 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I, too, make unpreventable physical errors all the friggin time. For instance, I attempted to upvote your comment but initially downvoted it. Sigh. | | |
| ▲ | vunderba 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | This made me laugh. The number of times I’ve Admiral Ackbar fat-fingered the flag button when I just wanted to hide a post on HN is almost too many to count at this point. |
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| ▲ | pdpi 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The way I taught myself to juggle was something I don't see very often in guides, but I think works quite well — I taught myself to juggle two balls in one hand, until I could do it with both hands, and then three ball juggling with two hands was just doing the exact same thing, but crossing. |
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| ▲ | stevage 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah I have wondered about that as a method. You can even just go two balls in one hand, then switch to the other side and back, and that's almost the 3 ball pattern. |
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| ▲ | AirMax98 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I’m very amazed by this site linked in the Wikipedia: https://libraryofjuggling.com/Tricks/3balltricks/Cascade.htm... Supposedly from 2014, but looks a fair bit older. |
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| ▲ | analog31 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| When I learned to juggle (which I've forgotten), it was with beanbags, because they don't bounce away when you drop them. |
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| ▲ | mark-r 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | But where's the fun in that? Chasing the balls is half the challenge! Seriously, knowing the balls are going to roll away if you drop them gives you some incentive to do it right. I think I used tennis balls early on. |
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| ▲ | stevage 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yeah I never really mastered a consistent throw - it's just not how my brain works. I got as a pretty shakey 4 ball shower and that was it. |
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| ▲ | justonceokay 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Every time I got better at dancing I got better at juggling too. In my folk psychology, juggling is a partially-attached extension of your hands, so it’s just weird dancing. If you think of it like 3 jobs you have to do simultaneously everything falls apart. Internalizing the three balls as a single process that you are participating in makes it a lot more manageable. Of course the only way to get there is some 10s of hours of practice |
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| ▲ | vunderba 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah I could see that. I think that because dance is so heavily reliant on proprioceptive abilities, it makes sense that there would be some overlap with juggling. |
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| ▲ | delichon 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wonder if juggling positive buoyancy balloons upside down would develop skills transferable to right side up. You can make those as slow as you want. When jugglers juggle balls against the floor I guess they don't start from scratch. |
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| ▲ | vunderba 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Lol. I’ve juggled non-buoyant, air filled balloons but because of their elasticity they don’t exactly settle into your hand when they land. In my juggling routine, one of the things I do is transition to lying on my back face up while continuing to juggle. I’m throwing the balls straight up above my head while lying perfectly flat, which feels pretty weird. So I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to be physically upside down while juggling. | | |
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| ▲ | sjrd 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Oh waw, I had totally forgotten about the handkerchiefs. But this is indeed how I was first thaught juggling when I was a kid. Thanks for the trip down the memory lane! |
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| ▲ | orangesilk 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| could you please link the beginner handkerchiefs? |
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| ▲ | vunderba 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The ones I have are pretty old, and I got them from a local store that doesn’t exist anymore. They’re kind of slightly weighted, for lack of a better term almost like a foxtail toy. You could probably just use standard juggling scarves and get much of the same effect. Renegade Juggling is probably one of the better places to buy juggling equipment. https://renegadejuggling.com/products/juggling-scarf-23-inch... | |
| ▲ | scarecrw 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I learned using plastic bags. Probably not as uniform in their motion as handkerchiefs, but worked to get the pattern down before moving to balls. |
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| ▲ | pstuart 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Any recommendations for youtube lessons? |
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| ▲ | nickcw 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I love Taylor Tries https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGV8mtb7t-4PuziHauottOfqp... Great teaching style and a fantastic juggler | |
| ▲ | pessimizer 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://archive.org/details/Juggling-Step-By-Step-1987 | |
| ▲ | irishcoffee 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Practice against a wall with tennis balls, it’ll take a day. | | |
| ▲ | fph 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't recommend tennis balls for a beginner: they bounce everywhere, and you'll spend most of your time chasing the balls rather than juggling. Cheap juggling balls are around 10$. | | |
| ▲ | tocs3 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Learning to juggle way back lasts century, I learned to juggle using lacrosse balls. Very bouncy and and a little on the heavy side. Standing over a bed helps if you are using bouncy things (they still can cause havoc in a bedroom when they bounce off each other though). One of the IJA (International Jugglers' Association) videos that most impressed me is :
IJA Tricks of the Month by Zaila Avant-garde | Juggling Basketballs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH2E1m8Fseg). Not only does she manage the juggling but her parents let her do it indoors with all sorts of stuff around. | | |
| ▲ | vunderba 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I actually learned contact juggling with a lacrosse ball, since its uniform color and texture make it hard to see the rotation of the ball. That way, you get the similar visual effect to a more expensive acrylic, but without the risk of chipping if you drop it while you’re still learning. |
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| ▲ | geekamongus 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If you do use tennis balls, stand in front of your couch so they land there and don't roll away. | |
| ▲ | vunderba 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This. Something like a hacky sack also works very well. They don’t roll away from you, and they won’t drive your neighbors nuts especially if someone lives below you when they hit the ground. | | | |
| ▲ | irishcoffee 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Part of the motivation is to make sure you catch them and they don’t bounce away. Negative externalities aren’t always a bad thing. |
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