It's worth considering why you are choosing a European stack.

Is it to support local/European companies - Great. Is it because you don't want to be at risk of the US and the CLOUD Act - Not so great. Any company that has servers in the US (which Hetzner and basically all CDNs do) are still vulnerable to the CLOUD Act and that includes servers in Europe.

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mhitza 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That doesn't sound right. https://docs.hetzner.com/general/company-and-policy/data-pro...

If you spin up your servers in EU locations they are under German ownership and EU regulation. Others, such as those in the US, are owned by a subsidiary and those are subject separately on the Cloud Act. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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sneak 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you really think German intelligence authorities don’t do what the US asks them to do?

	▲	tux3 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		That is not the CLOUD act, that is shifting the goalpost to some sort of defeatist helplessness.
	▲	alex_duf an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		At the rate things are going, yeah there will be a point where intelligence services aren't going to be happily cooperating across the Atlantic, that is unless there is a clear mutual benefit in doing so.
	▲	PeterStuer an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Do you really think there is 0 difference?

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LarsKrimi 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I can tell you why. It's not the cost (even though it certainly helps)

For my company it's about the "pulling the plug" usecase. We create a SaaS product for semi-critical infrastructure - we don't need 99% uptime but more than a few hours and it's problematic.

Sure, most cloud/VPS providers have sites in the US as well, but worst case only those places would be affected if the US decided to do a Special Military Operation on Greenland for example.

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dwedge an hour ago | parent [-]

This is so weird to me. So many tech writers seemed to suddenly decide this was a possibility at the same time, and based on what? How much energy was wasted on this thought experiment? And if the US does pull the plug and disconnects Europe, how likely do you think it is that you'll be unaffected?

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Boltgolt an hour ago | parent [-]

> So many tech writers seemed to suddenly decide this was a possibility at the same time

Wonder if any large geopolitical rifts happened eh. I soul would not host my application in Russia either for instance

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