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SAI_Peregrinus 7 hours ago

Opt-out is not consent. If I didn't opt in, I mark it as spam.

tgsovlerkhgsel 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And for the spammers: What matters for this is whether the recipient thought they opted in. No matter how clever you think you are by pre-checking that checkbox, or hiding it in the TOS, or putting the non-mandatory spam checkbox between two other clearly-mandatory checkboxes so people think it's mandatory: If the user didn't want the mails, they're going to mark your spam as spam and you'll have the deliverability problems that you deserve.