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JCattheATM 10 hours ago

It's not complicated. Just tax the corporations and billionaires a fair share and setup UBI.

testaccount28 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

or just pay the landlords directly and cut out the middlemen!

JCattheATM 7 hours ago | parent [-]

People need more than just rent, and arguably landlords shouldn't be able to profit to the extent they do.

testaccount28 6 hours ago | parent [-]

right, i love this plan, we are aligned politically. but until we make some change to the balance between renters and landlords, subsidizing demand is unlikely to help.

tokioyoyo 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is very much so complicated though. The conversations about UBI in the internet has been around since I’ve been online. And since then, there hasn’t been a single large scale test of the system to see if it can be compatible with the current version of capitalism that’s ran in the most of the world.

Even if I support UBI morally, there isn’t even local appetite for it, yet alone global one. And you’ll run into quick questions about inflations, every chart from UBI-lite era of COVID, and so on.

MidnightRider39 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Here is a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots

Probably not the scale you imagine but there have been plenty of tests.

xyzsparetimexyz 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The minute you institute UBI, everyone working a shit, low paying job such as trash collection is gone. You're going to have big problems if those jobs are not immediately supplanted by AI

singpolyma3 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"no large scale test" seems false -- there have been several?

"Compatible with current version of captialism" -- the whole point of UBI is to create a new form of capitalism

JCattheATM 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It is very much so complicated though. The conversations about UBI in the internet has been around since I’ve been online.

Polarizing doesn't mean complicated. There's people against it due to ignorance, greed of both, it's certainly not more complicated than that.

> And since then, there hasn’t been a single large scale test of the system to see if it can be compatible with the current version of capitalism that’s ran in the most of the world.

Because people keep fighting against it, because it's scary scary sOcIaLiSm.

> Even if I support UBI morally

As you should, there are no moral arguments against it.

> there isn’t even local appetite for it, yet alone global one.

I would think the majority of the population struggling to pay for groceries would disagree.

> And you’ll run into quick questions about inflations, every chart from UBI-lite era of COVID, and so on.

No reason to think UBI would cause inflation at all, actually.

In any case, this really is the answer. You're worried about disruption due to AI taking jobs, but the only reason there is a problem is because AI will drastically increase inequality by letting rich people and corps become even richer. You want to solve the issue, you solve the disparity by making them give back their fair share. Like I said, simple.

jplusequalt 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

UBI:

- 1. Will require a large increase in taxation.

- 2. Will likely cause some form of inflation.

- 3. Will not provide enough money for a majority of people to survive on.

- 4. Has no significant political support in the US.

8593376393 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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