It's fun to see the false idea that intelligence and thinking are what make humans human begin to collapse in real time. It's one of those structural pillars of human identity invented by some philosophers too lost in their own grandiosity from quite some time ago that we've all mistaken it for gospel. That notion was false to begin with, but I think a lot of us forgot that. So it'll be interesting to watch how that invented part of "being human" is eroded away, or rather is going through a revolution.

The reality is that being human stands independent of that idea.

Thoughts and ideas of course will continue to be the domain of humans, but as curators/extending our intellectual creativity beyond just the mere craft of writing. So even that story, that humans are thinking beings, will continue on for the foreseeable future.

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operatingthetan 2 days ago | parent [-]

>It's fun to see the false idea that intelligence and thinking are what makes humans human begin to collapse in real time.

As soon as LLMs start thinking please let us know!

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lacy_tinpot 2 days ago | parent [-]

If they weren't producing things that are indistinguishable from human produced products people wouldn't be against them.

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operatingthetan 2 days ago | parent [-]

On the contrary the reason people are against them is that the things produced are distinguishable from human created products. E.g. pushback against "slopification."

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lacy_tinpot 2 days ago | parent [-]

The pushback against "slopification" is an ad hoc justification that is nebulous and vague enough for people to use to feel superior about their opinions and ideas, but has no genuine grounding.

But even if we consider the slopification argument, don't factories produce slop as well? Fast fashion is notorious for producing slop. But at the same time factories also produce are cars, shovels, housing, screws, etc. are they "slop"? How about computers? And other advanced manufacturing? Still slop?

Even if we consider the slopification argument, it isn't strong enough.

The use of AI to produce slop is a non-argument. On the same level of argument that an open internet would produce scams, proliferation of pornography, and gross commercialization/ads. All true, but still a lot of new value was unlocked from n order effects.

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operatingthetan a day ago | parent [-]

Your comment is too dismissive for me to bother responding more than this.

	▲	lacy_tinpot 19 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Your entire point stands on being dismissive of an entire emerging industry. An emerging industry that has the fastest adoption rates, the fastest growth rate, and where millions of people using it on a daily basis. YOU need to provide the evidence for your truly absurd claims. In order for you to be right everyone else needs to be wrong. The capital markets, the investors, the companies, the hundreds of millions of people using it on daily basis, they ALL need to be wrong.