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didgetmaster 2 hours ago

Like most political arguments, if you listen carefully; those who advocate for or against pardons, only want them to go one way.

A pardon is only a protection against a 'vengeful administration' if that administration is not your party.

Pardons are only a miscarriage of justice if those pardoned don't share your ideology.

jfengel an hour ago | parent | next [-]

My (leftist) opinion is that we don't give enough pardons. By the time people get out of prison, their lives are pretty much wrecked. We should have a lot more clemency and compassion. That's what the pardon is for.

If that means a ton of literal insurrectionists go free, that's fine with me. We elected someone precisely to do that. It's on the voters if we elected someone who was literally treasonous himself.

I hope the insurrectionists take the opportunity to get on with their lives. I gather that quite a few have already been banned for other crimes, and that's too bad.

I don't want prison to be vengeance. I want prison to make us all safer. I'd like the President to take a lot of leeway in finding people who are going to be productive citizens if they were given that gift.

actionfromafar an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s what ypu tell yourself to feel better. But it’s not true.

didgetmaster a minute ago | parent [-]

Do you know ANYONE who thinks the same way about Biden's pardons as they do about Trump's?

I certainly don't.

krapp an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm a leftist, and a Democrat by necessity (not by choice) and I would be fine if the power of pardon was removed for Presidents who share my ideology. I would rather have working separation of powers and reform the justice system than give one person carte blanche power to nullify it based on their whim.

Not everyone making a political argument is engaging in cynical tribalism. Believe it or not, some people do actually believe in things.