  >microwaving in plastic bowls

More generally, never let hot food touch plastics. The high temperature is what damages the plastic surface, not anything special about microwaves.

For instance the same thing happens with plastic tea bags in hot water: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004565352...

▲ KellyCriterion 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wait, WHAT?

There are _plastic_ tea bags? Really?

Didnt know that we reached that level of degredation already! :-D

Another example comes to my mind: In lot of European conutries, at "cheese corner/bar" in the supermarket, every time a piece of cheese is cut, they are removing the foil, cutting the cheese, and then re-packing it in new foil after that - and this for every chees bar in every supermarket: How much kilometers does just one branch waste per year?

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schiffern 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The kicker? It's only on high-end tea, because it's more expensive than regular tea bags.

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KellyCriterion 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Curious: What is "high end tea"? Or is this just another wording for "premium-markup" which makes a product more expensive?

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schiffern 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes I just mean the more expensive tea on the shelf. On cheaper SKUs they're trying to cut cost so they use normal tea bags. The plastic sachets were a trend for a couple years but hopefully most brands have switched away.

That study is interesting because they used SEM to image the plastic afterward, and you can see how the plastic surface has literally been torn up on a microscopic level simply by touching hot water.

Plastic has a low-energy surface, which means it doesn't take much energy to tear it apart. Even Brownian motion is enough, which is pretty wild.

	▲	KellyCriterion an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Thanks for threwing this ball, so let me ask: Is there any real difference between the more expensive shelf places ("on eye height") than the more cheap one? Id suspect its just intelligent re-labelling/re-packing for different brands? Or is there really a difference in the quality/taste of the expensive ones? In my country, it doesnt matter if i spend 2 bucks or 5 bucks in the supermarket

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senectus1 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

all the high end tea bags I've seen are silk

▲ OutOfHere 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Some people use plastic cutting-trays / knives / forks /spoons / cups / jugs, which also are some things to avoid.

I would also avoid all nonstick pans and utensils, as they're lined with PFAS which is worse than plastic, and slowly it will break off into the food. Beware the industry shills on this forum, as they will have you ignore the fact that ingesting PFAS is well known to result in higher blood levels of PFAS.

	▲	alt227 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Fully agree with you, however eating small bits of PFAS from pans seems to be pretty non toxic. Even in the recent Veritasium video about it they said that unless the chemical was heated to above ~300 degress C if will pass through the human digestive system without causing any harm. https://youtu.be/SC2eSujzrUY