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elevatortrim 5 hours ago

To say “because of war”, you would also have to prove we could not do it without war.

jkman 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That's an absurd statement. By your logic, you can't just say that we have the smallpox vaccine "because of Edward Jenner". Because you would also "have to prove we could not do it without Edward Jenner". What does that even mean??