| ▲ | koolba 6 hours ago |
| Are there any longer or more generic than this: > For any nonviolent offenses against the United States which they may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1
2014 through the date of this pardon (JAN 19, 2025). https://pardonned.com/pardon/details/biden-family/ That’s 11+ years with no detail or description. |
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| ▲ | ceejayoz 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-4311-... > Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974. Not quite as long, but much more significant. (No violence exception, the criminal was the President, and they were crimes against the entire country, not some random drug/tax charges.) |
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| ▲ | gcanyon 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ford did real damage that day. | | |
| ▲ | Pikamander2 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The real embarrassment is how little effort there's been to limit/reform the pardon system since then. Pardons have valid uses, but it's wild that a single person can unilaterally pardon donators, family members, former presidents, etc, without needing so much as a simple majority confirmation vote in the House or Senate. The questionable pardons that we've seen over the last few years (and the Nixon pardon) are just the tip of iceberg in terms of how badly they could be abused. I'd imagine it won't be long until we see a president issue a preemptive pardon to themself at the end of their term, because there's nothing in the constitution that says they can't. | | |
| ▲ | Ray20 32 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Isn't that the whole point of all these pardon things? To reduce incentives to usurp power to avoid responsibility by providing less destructive for the political system ways to avoid responsibility. |
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| ▲ | vidluther 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| So this was the first time (i think) anyone got a preemptive pardon, the actual warrant on the DOJ website says what it says.. https://www.justice.gov/pardon/media/1385756/dl?inline Will have to crunch through the offenses in the db and see if anything else like this shows up. |
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| ▲ | lelandfe 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Preemptive meaning they hadn't yet been convicted. Nixon was pardoned by Ford in this manner (for "all offenses against the United States" between Jan. 20, 1969—Aug. 9, 1974). Carter preemptively mass-pardoned draft dodgers, etc. | | | |
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| ▲ | whoiskevin 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Look at what the Trump administration has done with the DOJ pursuing unwarranted indictments against anyone Trump doesn't like. All getting thrown out so far. And you lead with questioning why one of his constant targets would pardon his family?
The bigger question is why this isn't more outrage at the GOP attempts to find something on Biden or Clinton. They have been wasting tax dollars while Coomer "investigates" for something that he has never been able to prove.
I'd have pardoned everyone around me given that constant sustained and terrible attack.
All the while the Trump grift machine continues without so much as a blink. |
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| ▲ | GorbachevyChase 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | So two wrongs have made a right in this case? I think that you should not be emotionally invested in internet people impugning the honor of one crime family over another. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > So two wrongs have made a right in this case? No, it was right to consider the possibility that Trump would violate the norms here. Letting the President right unaddressed wrongs is the entire reason the pardon power exists. His own current Chief of Staff has similar concerns, and grand juries seem to be taking the same position; that these are just revenge. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/16/us/politics/trump-susie-w... "Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, told an interviewer that she forged a “loose agreement” with Mr. Trump to stop focusing after three months on punishing antagonists, an effort that evidently did not succeed. While she insisted that Mr. Trump is not constantly thinking about retribution, she said that “when there’s an opportunity, he will go for it.”" | | | |
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