> Do you spend much time with people not in the tech world?

Most of it. Across the political spectrum.

> even if not to such an extreme

That’s precisely the point. There is a massive difference between doing or aiding and abetting such behavior, cheering it on, and giving into the impulse of “couldn’t have happened to a worse person” before self correcting. There are a few saints who reject the violence at first glance. But most people are in that self correcting phase, and the correction happens the more they learn about the specifics of the assault.

> even the president regularly calls for and promotes violence

To what numerical end?

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pesus 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> To what numerical end?

How many people live in Iran, who he just threatened to genocide? How many people hold views that Trump thinks make them his enemy, including being critical of ICE? How many immigrants are in the country? It's going to be a very large number, no matter how you slice it.

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JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean to what numerical end do Trump’s supporters pick up arms when he calls them to violence.

	▲	pesus 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		This is getting more and more specific - I was talking about him encouraging violence. But some examples: Jan 6, the attack on Paul Pelosi, every ICE agent. Personally, I've also received multiple death threats from his supporters.

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fzeroracer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, he literally just posted a video on his account of a woman being violently beaten to death with a hammer as a call for people to do something about immigrants.

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JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> he literally just posted a video on his account of a woman being violently beaten to death with a hammer as a call for people to do something about immigrants

Zero dispute. I’m challenging the notion that Americans are rising to that call. (Or cheering on specific attacks, versus general notions of violence.)

In a weird way, maybe social media helps in this one instance. We can’t let the enemy be faceless. There is no glory in shooting a specific mother or nurse.

	▲	fzeroracer 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You're missing that the Americans rising to the call are employed by the state itself. ICE over Trump's tenure with a burgeoning budget has become filled with folks that were part of known white supremacist groups. The most violent believers have been state sanctioned and paid to inflict his agenda.