I’m looking forward to using a RISC-V computer in 20 years

aappleby 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You're probably already using a RISC-V computer, it's just embedded as a supervisor in some other gadget (or vehicle) you own.

	▲	themafia 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I look forward to running my _own_ software on a RISC-V computer.

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3abiton 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While its current performance is not competitive, there are currently interesting options. I got the orange pi riscv version, mainly to test riscv while it's slow compared to other arm socs, it's still better than I expected. There are even risc v TPUs now.

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ninth_ant 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This underestimates the will of governments and companies Europe and especially China to reduce their dependency on US-controlled technology.

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wk_end 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

ARM isn't US controlled, is it? British and also now Japanese since it's owned by SoftBank.

Meanwhile, wouldn't China be more heavily invested in Longsoon?

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hajile 4 hours ago | parent [-]

ARM is British (America’s closest ally) and proprietary. If you’re swapping, just eliminate the risk and cost entirely.

LoongArch is 32-bit instructions only. This means no MCUs due to poor code density. That forces them into RISCV anyway at which point, you might as well pour all your money and dev time into one ISA instead of two. RISCV has way more worldwide investment meaning LoongArch looks like a losing horse in the long term when it comes to software.

	▲	gggmaster 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Quite the contrary, the fragmented ecosystem is holding RISC-V back. There are currently 3 variants of LoongArch ISA. The reduced 32-bit version targets MCUs. And LoongArch64 ATX/MATX motherboards with UEFI support is readily available. This makes it far more easier to develop with LoongArch.

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Tostino 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I hope our complacent companies get a shot of competition.

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bityard 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I already have one! (But it's technically a soldering iron...)

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IshKebab 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think 10 years is a more realistic estimate. Probably first in servers and Android phones.

	▲	ThatMedicIsASpy 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They are everywhere already in microcontrollers like ESP32.

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znpy 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

unironically, this.

i've been hearing about arm computer for almost twenty years and only just recently general-purpose decently-priced arm laptops have been released (qualcomm laptops, the macbook neo).

and arm desktop are still not a thing, in practice.

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Joker_vD 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, Apple M1/M2/etc. are, technically, ARMv8, and they're available as desktops.

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Joeboy 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Also the Acorn Archimedes is, technically, an ARM / RISC desktop.

	▲	bluebarbet 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Distant memories of a 1980s London classroom.

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heresie-dabord 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> arm desktop are still not a thing

The desktop market is not the only product space anymore.

Apple has had brilliant success with its ARM processors, proving that ARM is more than capable. Before Apple's switch, Chromebooks had been using ARM since 2011.

Android is the dominant operating system in mobile and most Android devices use the ARM platform. Many of these devices have desktop capability -- they are a viable convergence platform.

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andai 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the Surface Laptops (2018?) count, and arguably the previous models (2012+) sorta-kinda count (tablet + keyboard).

Side note: It's kinda funny to me that "the keyboard is detachable, the screen is glass and you can touch/write on it" makes it "lesser" than a laptop rather than being an upgrade.

But yeah, definitely happy to see more in this space. Now we just need e-Paper laptops to take off as well :)

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mavhc 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have an ARM desktop from 1986 or 1987

https://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/A500.h...

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wg0 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Donald Trump might make it five.