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jandrese 2 hours ago

It becomes a larger problem as the world moves away from fossil fuels like natural gas.

I'm not a chemist but are there really no alternatives? Running fusion plants to make helium seems very unlikely to become cost effective, but it would be quite the sci-fi future if we filled party balloons by bombarding hydrogen with free protons.

I guess there aren't any easy molecules to break apart to get helium either since its a noble gas. No hydrolyses type solutions because there aren't any molecules that incorporate helium. I guess radioactive decay, but even that is ultimately limited over long enough timescales.

triceratops 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> it would be quite the sci-fi future if we filled party balloons by bombarding hydrogen

How dangerous are party balloons filled with hydrogen? Not a whole balloon arch obviously.

jandrese 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I had a science teacher that did this in class, then taped a match on the end of a yardstick and held it under the balloon. They made quite a bang. I wouldn't want to be right next to it when it went off.

triceratops 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah I've seen that demonstration in school too. But if the teacher was willing to do it in school, with kids, how dangerous was it really?

Neywiny an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Along with the other commenter, I'll add that a classroom is usually a lot bigger than a home dining room or other domestic party locations. That size also helps things dissipate instead of reflect. Not sure by how much but I'm sure it does something.

cyberax an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You can get permanent hearing damage from that demonstration if you stand right next to that balloon.

cubefox 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> It becomes a larger problem as the world moves away from fossil fuels like natural gas.

I actually remember a similar problem from some compound that was mainly formed as a byproduct of some old Canadian nuclear reactor design. As the tech gets phased out, the material is no longer available in significant quantities, with consequences for a projects that need it (like Iter).

Some things can be cheap if they are produced as a byproduct, but very expensive if they have to be obtained directly.