| ▲ | 0cf8612b2e1e 4 hours ago |
| Some ministers had opposed the amendment and suggested the new ban would have been difficult to implement because, under the law in England and Wales, it is not illegal for adults who are step-related to engage in a sexual relationship.
This is amusing to me. Legal to do, but not legal to film. |
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| ▲ | tialaramex an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| There are several edge cases like this in the UK. It's obviously not legal for say, me, a middle aged man, to possess a photograph of some 17 year old girl with her tits out. Right? Except well... wait no, because what if I have a photo of my middle aged wife shortly after we first met, so the photo shows a 17 year old girl with her tits out, but the person is my wife, who is like "Yeah, remember when I had long hair? Also, I wish my tits still looked like that". So clearly that is OK after all, it's legal. And then we have a huge row, she divorces me, now that photo is illegal after all, because I'm definitely not allowed to have photos of under-age girls with their tits out, and now the photo isn't of my wife... not any more. Knife laws similarly have weird edge cases. 12" long sharp blade? Crime. In a Kebab shop to make delicious kebabs? Legal. I took it with me to the pub after work? Crime; Walking down the street with an ordinary Swiss Army Knife (oversize)? Crime. Tiny version of that knife? Legal. Sword, like an actual medieval sword? Crime. But I need it for this mock battle we're staging? Still a crime. No swords. Use a fake sword which can't hurt anybody or go to jail. Edited: The "original" Swiss Army Knife is barely short enough that it's always legal, but some oversize variants are not. Like that Kebab knife you can have a lawful reason you needed to carry the knife regardless of size but I hope your reason make sense ("Self defence" is never a lawful reason to carry weapons in the UK) |
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| ▲ | _heimdall 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The greater irony to me is how this relates to the sometimes interwoven family tree of British royalty. |
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| ▲ | UI_at_80x24 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal." |
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| ▲ | Jiro 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A politician voting for a bill is legal. Giving money to a politician is legal. But giving money to a politician so he'll vote for a bill is not legal. | |
| ▲ | gjsman-1000 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Moving your finger is legal, holding and aiming a gun is legal, pulling your finger to fire a gun is sometimes not legal. Framing the gun debate as a restriction on finger movement would also not be productive. | |
| ▲ | handfuloflight 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal." | | |
| ▲ | burnte 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | One kills people the other makes people, they're not the same. | | |
| ▲ | handfuloflight 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | You know what really makes people? Polygamy. And I want my f*king human rights, now! Just like President Jimmi Carta says. |
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| ▲ | Chance-Device 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Or, to be true to the original:“Driving is legal, and drinking is legal; but driving an alcoholic beverage is not legal.” Maybe it’s just not street legal but you could do it on a race track? | | | |
| ▲ | lucianbr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | People forget Carlin was a comedian. "It's a big club and you ain't in it". Obviously the problem is the club is too small, that's why for most of the people it is true that they are not part of it. "Half the population is stupider than how stupid the average person is". As if somehow there's not a single person exactly on the median. In fact there is probably a huge number of people there, and within a margin of error of it. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > People forget Carlin was a comedian. That would seem to include you? | | |
| ▲ | lucianbr 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | How do you figure? I don't have a problem with Carlin, but with people who quote him as a source of wisdom. The commenter who quoted him here in the thread meant to make a joke and I didn't get it? I thought he quoted him as a point against the law we are discussing. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | You're semantically quibbling with a clear joke and using those quibbles to avoid engaging with the point it's making. | | |
| ▲ | lucianbr 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal." I don't get it. The literal interpretation is a clear joke, as you say. So what's the point that it is making? To be clear, I think the law discussed is stupid. I also think the argument that if both parts are legal they should also be legal together is wrong. What am I avoiding? | | |
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| ▲ | handfuloflight 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I am quite acquainted with Carlin. If there's anyone that can have their absurd logic repeated back to them, it would be a comedian. And That Right Soon. |
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| ▲ | bigbadfeline 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > This is amusing to me. Legal to do, but not legal to film. I don't know if it's amusing but the comparison is incorrect. Doing it in public is not legal. These laws are about the public part, not about the doing part. Carlin's quote in this thread suffers from the same problem, he was eager to say something amusing, instead of correct, and did it prematurely. |
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| ▲ | Liskni_si 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That's not that unusual though. Many countries' age of consent is ~15 so you can legally do it sooner than you can film it. |
