Like last time, I ask again: Which are the European made computers?

Which are the US made computers? Start by excluding all the ones with Korean LCD panels, and Taiwanese motherboards, and Chinese parts.

If you mean assembled then there are lots of very small European companies that make custom build PCs.

Economies of scale in the US, a single language, and cheap transport, mean that the US companies grow very big internally, very easily. And then go international without much effort. The same is not true in Europe, so there's not a huge Dell, HP, or IBM equivalent.

In 2026, the only country on the entire planet that can likely make their own computer with 100% their parts and labour, and is actively trying, is China.

No European made computers today doesn't preclude the possibility that there will be one tomorrow. RISC-V is the way out, and there are a number of European initiatives (though nothing serious just yet, I admit)

As a European dev, because I like RISC-V and because of the geopolitical situation I wouldn't bet on x86 in the long term.

Being independent of Chinese manufacturing is a tougher challenge for anybody.

Though at least the Chinese are predictable, unlike dealing with the USA.

It’s all about risk management. No solution is ever perfect, and that works for the US as well.

Also, some partners are more reliable than others. If China becomes as volatile as the US, it would change the risk assessment and stimulate other parts of the industry.

I use an European made computer from Schenker (their XMG subbrand actually).

Of course the components are not European made. But Dell's components are not US made either.

I can also buy a Japanese or Korean (or Chinese) computer. There is no dependency on a single country.

The goal isnt to become independent of China / Taiwan / the rest of Asia. The goal is to become independent of America.

> Which are the European made computers?

Recently, not so many I suppose. But many of the earliest computers were European, so surely we could get there again at one point, hardly impossible.

Achieving redundancy from China is likely not possible in the near future. Meanwhile, the risk emanating from a rugpull or from deliberate sabotage by the USA is very concrete.

Given that most chips use photolithography machines by ASML: nearly all of them

Interestingly, there are zero non-US powerful laptops. The closest option is the Moore Threads MTT AI Book (12-core 2.65Ghz, 32GB DDR5, 1TB SSD, 14 inch). It cannot reach a modern Ryzen in performance though. It's fascinating that only the US can make good computers. I'm not from/in the US so I'm not saying that from a patriotic point of view. How hard can it be to pop a good ARM chip in a laptop and compete with HP, Apple and the likes?

> "Like last time"

I am perplexed by people who use condescending phrases like this. You think we track what you said before?

What are the American-made computers? The Apple macbook assembled in China with Korean displays and Taiwanese chips?