I enjoy how moon-landing deniers will use the van Allen belts as a reason for why the astronauts could not have made it to the moon because of radiation exposure. Like, you don't believe NASA that they went to the moon, but you believe NASA that the van Allen belts exist?

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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any entertaining “Artemis II is a hoax” takes?

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jrmg an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You just need to look at the Facebook comments on any official NASA post about Artemis to see depressingly many of them. Some are joking or trolling, I’m sure, but I don’t think all.

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hydrogen7800 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I haven't been actively looking for them, but a friend sent me something about the launch tower escape zipline/gondolas and how that somehow indicated something fraudulent. He is not a denier, but works with one and is always asking me to refute that person's claims.

	▲	Tangurena2 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		If your friend is trying to "cure" the denier, then it might be helpful for them to learn some of the tactics for reaching/deprogramming cult members. One that might be helpful is "street epistemology". Link: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Street_Epistemology

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blitzar an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I am fairly certain that Artemis II has proven conclusively that they were right all along and the world is flat.

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rsynnott an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Strictly speaking, their existence was verified by Sputnik 2 (though the Soviets only released data on it after the fact, corroborating data from Explorer 1), so if you have a highly _specific_ conspiracy theory, around NASA rather than space stuff in general, that _could_ still work, I suppose?

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arowthway 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not disputing that conspiracy theorists tend to lack rigor but there is a full spectrum of positions between "space is fake" and "one specific extraordinary achievement with high incentive to fake it is fake".

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glimshe 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There's indeed a full spectrum of positions in this case, but they are all worthless in the sense that they add nothing to someone's understanding of reality.

	▲	zurfer 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You know some people grow up in untrustworthy environments and auto didact their way to something like first principles thinking and depending on things shaking out you might only believe what you've personally seen with your own eyes. And well, earth looks pretty flat in daily life.

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joeslide 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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