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pirate787 4 hours ago

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malfist 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It's grossly unfair to conflate white nationalism and white supremacy

No, it isn't. It's a distinction without a difference.

cosmic_cheese 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I know exactly how my grandparents would've reacted because I've seen it first-hand, and it's ugly and carries precisely zero validity. It's not to be emulated any more than someone who was born in 1850's skepticism towards automobiles and airplanes is.

huxley 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can call it white nationalism if you like but you are spouting the exact same talking points as white supremacists, you just prefer to buy it under a different brand.

stirfish 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This feels like the "technically it's hebephilia" argument in that drawing the distinction just makes your argument weaker for regular people.

ImPostingOnHN 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It's grossly unfair to conflate white nationalism and white supremacy. Your grandparents lived in a state that was close to 100% european descent

Why do you think that makes a difference?

Hint: white supremacy (believing whites are superior).

habinero 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As someone who is so white they glow in the dark, no. They are exactly the same.

You don't speak for me, and I find you embarrassing.

hsuduebc2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What exactly would happen according to you? The state in question got more Mexicans or South Americans which are also descendants of European colonists? Almost every American have European heritage. In my opinion this doesn't make much sense for Americans.

What exactly means to be culturally white in US?

CharlieDigital 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can be racist and still hate fascism and Nazis.

Everyone should hate fascism and Nazis.

declan_roberts 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just like how the "antifascists" who stormed the beaches of Normandy would support the "antifascists" of today! "my grandpa was antifa!!"

ath3nd 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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mullingitover 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's grossly dishonest to conflate a complexion with an ethnicity. 'White' is a complexion, not a culture.

For most of the past five centuries, the people you're lumping into this thing called 'white' would've considered it fighting words to do so.

pirate787 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Part of the replacement is declaring white Americans don't have a culture. Would you say the same about black Americans?

mullingitover 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's no 'white' culture, there is modern North American culture and it's not something that belongs to a particular complexion. It's norms and traditions. These aren't remotely under threat of extinction from 'race mixing.'

The things that are under threat are the contemporary cultural values of openness and acceptance of other cultures/relgions/traits. These are truly valuable, positive aspects that stand out in contemporary American and European societies, and these are the things that are legitimately under threat, ironically, by those who attempt to normalize racism and xenophobia.

matheusmoreira 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> There's no 'white' culture, there is modern North American culture and it's not something that belongs to a particular complexion.

This doesn't seem right to me. WASP culture absolutely does exist. Anyone can see it in full display by watching films like Dead Poets Society or Home Alone.

chhat 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

USA has a long history of erasing culture. If there is a lack of “white” culture it’s more the fault of other white people not “woke” culture. EVERYTIME there’s a new ethnic minority in USA they’re forced to assimilate through persecution and through the school systems.

Kallikrates 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

no

habinero 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

White Americans descend from a number of cultures that voluntarily moved here and involve food that thinks pepper is spicy.

Slavers deliberately mixed different groups of kidnapped Africans so they had no shared language and sold their children so they couldn't pass anything on to the next generation.

We are not the same.