Price drops are nice. Unfortunately, the quality differential versus the competitor is night and day.

And everyone serious uses the API rate billing anyway.

aerhardt 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> the quality differential versus the competitor is night and day.

This myth about the inferiority of ChatGPT and Codex is becoming a meme.

I have active subscriptions to both. I am throwing at Codex all kinds of data engineering, web development and machine learning problems, have been working on non-tech tasks in the "Karpathy Obsidian Wiki" [1] style before he posted about it.

Not only does Codex crush Claude on cost, it's also significantly better at adherence and overall quality. Claude is there on my Mac, gathering dust, to the point I am thinking of not renewing the sub.

There are plenty of fellow HNers here who feel the same from what I read in the flamewars. I suspect none of us really has a horse in this race and many are half-competent (in other threads, they mention they do things like embedded programming, distributed DL systems, etc.)

I'm starting to suspect a vast majority of people pushing the narrative that Claude is vastly better haven't even tried the 5.3 / 5.4 models and are doing it out of sheer tribalism.

[1] https://gist.github.com/karpathy/442a6bf555914893e9891c11519...

	▲	selectively 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I have access to effectively infinite API tokens for all models from Anthropic as well as OpenAI. The differential in performance in complex tasks is vast and strongly in favor of Opus, in my experience. I do not use the official harnesses for either model, though - as they are not my taste. Codex is closer to my taste, as it is at least a native app and not typescript slop. But the model is just not up to snuff.
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hyperionultra 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Disagree. I use codex extensively. It just works so well with vscode and python. Claude with ridiculous limits - thanks no. For some even xAI is good fit.

	▲	randomNumber7 36 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> For some even xAI is good fit. Grok makes sense if you want s.th. less censored that is not biased towards woke ideology. I don't see how this matters for coding though. I only use it to give me a summary of recent news (so I don't have to actually read the bs newspapers and X posts myself).

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nilkn 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This take is out-of-date by months (which is an eternity in this space). Codex today has caught up and is very much on par with CC.

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satvikpendem 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I prefer and use 5.4 over Opus, it's simply better, faster, and doesn't glaze me like Claude models want to do for some reason.