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jesse_dot_id 3 hours ago

Astounds me that anyone is still using that platform after seeing how Musk treated the engineers when he took over.

ghshephard 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I was recently at a brown bag at work - regarding enablement of AI in the workplace (it was awesome - all over the roadmap) - and one of the audience asked the speakers (a very diverse group of people) how on earth they keep up with all the developments in AI?

All six of the speakers immediately said Twitter was realistically the only place you can keep up with the conversation. Having an extensively curated list means that anytime anything breaks (and often a few hours before) you are going to hear about it on X/Twitter.

I would love to know if there is anything even close to the reach of X. It has a lot of problems - but if you want to track breaking news, I can't think of anything else close to it.

theahura 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The big issue with this approach is that it will destroy your sanity for things that are often a big bag of hype with nothing underneath. I often find HN to be better because things that get on the front page are vetted beyond 'someone on twitter hyped up a thing'

lucb1e an hour ago | parent [-]

> things that get on the [HN] front page are vetted beyond 'someone on twitter hyped up a thing'

Interesting take. I'm not aware that anyone is doing vote rings or vote buying very successfully (considering that my own blog also makes it at an expected rate, and I know there isn't a group of friends voting that up) but I kinda assume that this is a thing for some of the bigger launches where they are hoping for conversions. Beyond a defined group coordinating their posts or votes, though, surely HN's front page can't be seen as vetted beyond "oh this looks trendy/hype"? People don't vote only after trying out the product or reading the full article. In many cases that would mean voting after it has already disappeared off of the front page for good

black_puppydog an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My goodness, the only branch of work that I can think of where knowing something a few hours earlier is probably day trading also.

Seriously, if you're working on anything worthwhile, you can wait for the weekly digest. Everything else just seems like hyperiding.

klueinc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had to reluctuntaly create an account on twitter after years because of the exact same reason. AI research discussion is more active there than anywhere else. I've tried to use nitter's rss feed to stave off of the platform but it was limiting.

trollbridge 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, Twitter has a lot of separate spheres. It's pretty easy to curate just tpot (the part that concerns itself with the Bay area, venture capital, and so forth) by following the right people and then engaging with posts that are on-topic.

threetonesun 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even when it was Twitter drinking from the firehose didn't really make your life better. I don't need a two sentence breaking update from a Miyazaki baby to stay on top of this stuff, and quite frankly if they can't bother to make a blog post or press release it's probably just noise any way.

alex1138 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

bsky is meant to hold the promise of control your algorithm, I don't see why that can't be the model going forward

supern0va 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The problem is largely one of community. The folks talking about AI are still primarily on X and haven't moved over.

rockemsockem an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The tech seems great, the people don't

650REDHAIR 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He banned me after I replied to his tweet with my display name set as "Elon's Musk".

I think I lasted <1 week after this takeover.

sixothree 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Almost as bad as saying vaccines are safe and effective.

yodsanklai an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Of all the things he did or said, this is pretty benign

numpad0 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's cheaper to try to extort more out of a sucker than setting up a proper decentralized alternative. That's how I personally see what's going on, that nobody is moving out but everyone focus on gaming the system.

xigoi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Astounds me that anyone was using the platform even before Musk took over it.

SecretDreams 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You'd be surprised how easy it is for people to compartmentalize their principles. Many do it day to day every time they purchase something online that was probably made using less than ideal labour practices.

Still, I'd advocate to leave social media in general. And certainly to get off twitter.

reg_dunlop 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Hmm, I'd argue what you call "compartmentalize their principles" is in fact, NOT having principles.

Correct me if I'm wrong: I'm asserting that having a principle is an inalienable belief that actually guides behavior, not selectively applies to behavior.

Though generally: yes, I agree: get off twitter, and I'd go a step further and say..minimize all social media involvement.

satvikpendem 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lots of good discussion there still if you follow the right people and block certain categories of discussion. If you use lists then you'll see no suggested content beyond who you follow.

I'm more astounded that people think every single part of it is a cesspool when in reality there are gems to be found that aren't in any other X alternative like Bluesky or Mastodon or (lol) Threads.

Lord_Zero 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is a poor take. "You can make this mismanaged steaming pile of bot-infested garbage better if you just filter everything!"

satvikpendem 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How is it a poor take? Yes that's exactly what I said to do. It's the same as Reddit, I don't read whatever garbage is on r/all, I follow specific subreddits. Honestly people should curate no matter what social media they're on and find ways to stop seeing suggested content; my Instagram shows me only people I follow too, via a third party app/mod.

btown 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This would be true if the algorithm changes were limited to for-you feeds. But the larger problem is that the set of people willing to pay for X are boosted in replies. So if that set of people, which tends towards a certain political bias, is hostile towards a poster, that poster will be driven away from posting on X.

The net result is that X shows breaking news, in the same way that the (infamous) meme of bullet holes marked on the WWII plane only shows part of the story - the people who have departed the platform aren't posting, and thus X is only breaking news from a subset of people.

This might be fine for certain types of topics. For understanding the zeitgeist on culture and politics, though, you can't filter your way towards hearing from voices that are no longer posting at all.

satvikpendem 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't care about culture and politics on X, in fact it is something I actively block. By discussion I mean tech news and trends, ie how is someone using the latest AI model or what new project was created, that sort of stuff. The people I follow provide me that, not politics. If you're there for politics then I agree with your point, look elsewhere.

indoordin0saur an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

On this Instagram is far worse than X. Yeah, their suggested content rarely is the sort of thing that offends delicate sensibilities, but it is generally irrelevant slop and Meta always seems to be conspiring to trap you in it, giving you few options to remove it from your feed.

satvikpendem 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yep, thankfully there are mods to remove it all.

nkohari 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem is that there isn't really an alternative. The discussion is still happening there and nowhere else. (Trust me, I've looked.)