| ▲ | Archelaos 8 hours ago |
| > In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Why not outsource this to a cheaper country? For example, here in Germany salaries are about half of that, and the talent pool is excellent. |
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| ▲ | cl3misch 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Afaik Germany is one of the most expensive countries for employing white collar jobs? The gross income to the employee might be 75k in Germany, but the cost to the employer is roughly twice that amount in turn. In my (very naive) mental model, US salaries are higher, have less "overhead" for the employer, but leave more responsibility (healthcare, retirement) to the employee. |
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| ▲ | alcasa 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Employer cost is not 2x, more like 1.2x, employer overhead is mostly insurance related stuff. We had salaray to employer cost tables at my previous job. What true though is that after taxes you might just receive 60% of your total salary once you deduct taxes and insurances. | |
| ▲ | ExpertAdvisor01 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah , but the German pension system is unfortunately a scam .
Therefore everyone is responsible for their own retirement (private investments e.g etfs) . | |
| ▲ | rvz 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > In my (very naive) mental model, US salaries are higher, have a lot less "overhead" for the employer, but leave more responsibility (healthcare, retirement) to the employee. Unfortunately this time, AI does not have vacations, healthcare, retirement or bills to pay and is available 24/7, 365 days on demand. Many companies only see this as an opportunity to cut down on employees in 2026 and Session will do the same. So that is why to answer your question: > ...Germany is one of the most expensive countries for employing white collar jobs? The main reason why the downsizing will continue until "AGI" is achieved internally. |
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| ▲ | MandieD 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If you are getting 60k EUR as a senior developer in Germany, you are getting ripped off. Look for a place with an IG Metall contract, friends - if you would like to be making significantly more than $75k USD full time as a senior developer, anyway. |
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| ▲ | ramon156 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Id do it for 1/3rd! |
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| ▲ | rvz 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Claude (or any other chatbot) can do it for 1/100th of the cost and faster than anyone. So $150k+ is overpriced. | | |
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| ▲ | ExpertAdvisor01 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Add 30% on top of your salary to cover social contributions+ healthcare. |
