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zozbot234 2 days ago

You're a lot more likely to be aware in the present moment when you're deep in a 'flow' state doing something productive than when you're just sitting around doing nothing. Why do people assume that idleness is something to aim for, and enjoying real productive work is not?

mtlmtlmtlmtl 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Why do people(you, in this case, but this is a very common fallacy) assume that advocating for one thing(idleness) is implicitly advocating against its opposite(work)? We can do both, just not simultaneously.

zozbot234 2 days ago | parent [-]

Because the article's title is "The Importance of Being Idle" not The Importance of doing something that you enjoy"? It's all-too-easy to enjoy being idle, but ultimately it's also a bit mindless, and this deprives us of deeper forms of enjoyment and engagement.

fl4regun 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

it seems like you are interpreting this as an argument for "not doing work" - but it's not the case. It is more so saying that rest is important too. You ever have the experience that you are bashing your head against something, take a break to stop working on it, and come back refreshed and solve it quickly? Just because something is important, doesn't mean you should do that thing, single-mindedly, at the expense of other things.

nicbou 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Two things can be important

lamasery 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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nicbou 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I start my day with deliberate idleness. Just coffee and music in my living room, or tea on the balcony.

Productivity needs purpose and direction, and you find those through pausing and looking around you.

This reminds me of our painting teacher randomly forcing the whole class to put their paintbrushes down, take a step back and see if their painting still makes sense. Otherwise you get stuck on details while your perspective is all wrong.

mycocola 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The two states are in no way in opposition to each other. In fact, experiencing deep meditation can improve one's ability to get into that desired productive flow.