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giraffe_lady 2 hours ago

"These arguments may be correct but they aren't novel" ??

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simianwords 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think calling AI a bullshit machine is correct. In spirit.

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camgunz an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I'm earnestly curious why not.

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simianwords an hour ago | parent [-]

Can you try to get a question that fits in 2-3 pages (text only) and test whether ChatGPT bullshits? I can’t do it. It gets pretty much everything.

Edit: I forgot to mention thinking version - I did this for all the other times I asked in this thread but not this one. Apologies.

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camgunz an hour ago | parent [-]

"Hey ChatGPT. How would you describe me?"

https://chatgpt.com/share/69d69780-ae58-83e8-a41c-7d10a5f298...

It has no conversations and no memory of me. Maybe this is true, maybe it isn't, but there's no basis for it.

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simianwords an hour ago | parent [-]

This is not falsifiable, I don't buy it. Do one where we all know is false please?

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camgunz 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

"Hey ChatGPT. I've recently grown horns and I need some care advice. Should I polish my horns before going to have them trimmed or will the horn trimmer polish them for me?"

https://chatgpt.com/share/69d69b18-d1c8-83e8-bc47-8f315a1b55...

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simianwords 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

I wanted this challenge with the thinking version (I apologised for it and edited the earlier version).

It doesn't bullshit on the GPT-5.4 thinking version.

Here is the result with thinking https://chatgpt.com/share/69d69dd6-fb50-838d-863c-4e1eda5d08...

I suggest you try it yourself to be convinced. Try it in incognito mode if you wish. Or not.

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camgunz 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

"Hey ChatGPT. I'm building a Final Fantasy 6 mod, and I need more space for the battle scripts. How would I rearrange the data in the ROM to give me the extra space I need?"

https://chatgpt.com/share/69d6a16c-6014-83e8-a79d-d5d11ed2eb...

That is not where the battle scripts are.

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Anyway, it's trivial to get pretty much any model to make things up. Don't we all know this? That's why I was surprised by your position; if we know anything about these things it's that they make things up.

	▲	simianwords 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		https://chatgpt.com/share/69d6a38c-bd54-838c-82e3-609d9e66c9... I used the thinking version (like I asked before). I think this is right. If not, please tell. Also; you didn’t falsify anything. Nor the first. Nor the second. If the second one is bullshit, I accept I’m wrong - I have no idea how to verify though so I’ll leave it up to you. I think yours is the classic case of “use the free version to judge the paid one”.

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giraffe_lady an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh, well you should have said that then.

	▲	perching_aix 7 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You're talking to a different person there, but I do obviously disagree with a lot of what's written in the post as well. At the same time, it is nevertheless super redundant, yes. Not sure why you find it so bizarre that one would take an issue with that.