| ▲ | mortenjorck 7 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
As I’ve gotten older, it’s become increasingly hard for me to understand how anyone can read such comical reductionism as enlightenment. We are infinitely complex arrangements of systems built upon systems, from the quantum properties of carbon atoms up through the proteins that make the “meat” we are so glibly reduced to, through the complexities and adaptations of mammalian bodies, up to the fearsome order of the human brain and the intricate sprawl of human society and culture. To reduce us to anything less is to deny the awesomeness of the cosmos itself. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | tantalor 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I don't know where you get the claims from "anyone" about "enlightenment". This story is obviously satire. Meaning, it is a lie that tells the truth. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | RajT88 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Rainier Wolfcastle: THAT'S THE JOKE | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | indoordin0saur 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"They're made out of wires!" "Oh god, you're right! They're all just tiny pieces of rubber and silicon, transistors and circuits all crammed chaotically together! How horrifying!" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | 0x3f 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Part of the human expression of disgust includes thought terminating cliches. Imagine how the average person would talk about a race of bug-like aliens, no matter how advanced they were. It would be a dismissive kind of 'ew, gross'. The humor is in seeing other beings reacting that way to us. I don't think it's supposed to imply the aliens are some kind of flawless geniuses revealing the true nature of human beings. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | glenstein 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I feel like the point of the story was that it was celebrating how spectacular the brain is, by showing how unlikely it would seem, and how incredulous another intelligent creature could be upon hearing of it if it weren't already built into their sense of normal. It might be that this alternative cosmic sense of "normal" is not a real thing (meat may prove to be more cosmically normal than machine at the end of the day), but the sense of wonder in response to something as ridiculous as a brain, in its capabilities and its design, is a real feeling that the story is appropriately trying to evoke. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | lucianbr 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
How many of the billions of people alive have your perspective? How many of our leaders even, given the news in the last... let's say two weeks. But you can look at thousands of years of history and to me it still seems that people and their leaders don't share your view of "infinitely complex arrangements". I mean they might think such of themselves, but of "others", obviously not. The story mentions some "official rules". Consider that we also have official rules and behaviour that does not obey them. I dare suggest your own view might be reductionist. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | the_af 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> As I’ve gotten older, it’s become increasingly hard for me to understand how anyone can read such comical reductionism as enlightenment. First, it's a humorous piece. Second, it's as much a critique of the aliens as of the humans. The aliens are also depicted as clueless about what makes human life interesting, and even shown to be petty in the end. Their behavior is entirely "human", so if they are criticizing humans for it... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | BearOso 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> To reduce us to anything less is to deny the awesomeness of the cosmos itself. Teacher: "Photosynthesis makes energy from water, CO2 and light. The mitochondria are the power centers of the cell." Grade-schooler: "How do they work?" Teacher: "Um. Um..." Modern scientist: "Quantum entanglement and tunneling. We don't really understand any of it." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | empath75 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Do you feel the same about cows and pigs and chickens? One way to read this is your reading. Another way to read it is as an attempt to make you question the concept of meat. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | draw_down 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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