I have been watching people write UI frameworks in Rust for over a decade, you meanie.

The results tend to involve more dynamic allocation than you'd see in a garbage-collected language, or tons of reference counting (e.g., in Leptos) that acts as a less efficient GC. I've read many of raphlinus's posts, and while they're always interesting, the total experience in the Xilem examples just seems like much more effort than using FFI (even C FFI) to glue to something more workable.

Your comparison to assembly is very bizarre - languages of the sort I mentioned are usually at least as safe as Rust, and the "scripting language for top-level logic + compiled language for the bits that need to be fast" combination is ancient. In fact, your vague allusions to "a stable base, without infinite danger everywhere" shows much less understanding of what's at stake, in my view.

I'm sorry my question wasn't enlightened enough for you.

And this is a news aggregator. Not the official discussion forums or anything. People can ask small insignificant questions here, or so I thought.

I'm so tired. You write one measly paragraph that could simply be ignored and someone calls you a "perpetuate drain". Even the chatbots have more humanity than you've got.

> I'm so tired. You write one measly paragraph that could simply be ignored and someone calls you a "perpetuate drain". Even the chatbots have more humanity than you've got.

Don't tire everyone else out by asking open ended draining questions. Show some engagement, before doing what looks like a discarding.

You've shown you have some interest or connection to the situation, with your reply. None of that was present before, in your 'just-asking-questions' "measely paragraph". It looked like just another anti-rust anti-systemd anti-pipewire/pulseaudio anti-wayland drain, only sapping energies without showing faintest attempts at engaging. Offer something, try to have some positive sum.

We are all so tired. Why be a vacuum, why drain us, like you did? Critical review is fine! But show some engagement, offer something yourself, when doing so.