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ericmay 7 hours ago

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kadoban 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Iran doesn’t control the straight though. It just has the ability to launch missiles at ships and such. There is a difference.

There really isn't a difference. They can turn off the flow at will, they're the only ones who can, nobody can stop them. They control it.

albatross79 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's veto power, what other kind of control do they need?

oa335 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Sounds good - and the US can bomb Iran. Might makes right.

Might doesn’t make “right” but it determines geopolitical realities.

> Iran doesn’t control the straight though.

Then why was Trump demanding that Iran “open the fuckin’ Strait”?

“Transit volume through the Strait of Hormuz remains a fraction of what it was before the Iran conflict”

https://maritime-executive.com/article/traffic-through-strai...

8note 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

its not particularly might makes right, but bargaining knowing that war is costly. iran could attack every ship that goes through the strait, but that would cost iran both in actual missiles/drones, and an opportunity cost of getting its own ships through, missing a potential toll, and missing potential benefits from being neighbor to rich states. Not to mention that the shots mean that other countries will want to respond

even with might, most conflicts end in a negotiated settlement, and that approximates what each side of a conflict thinks would be the result of fighting the war, plus or minus some bargaining range. its still expensive for the mighty to fight the war, and better for everyone to accept the result of war without fighting

see: the youtube channel "lines on maps" aka "william spaniel" to hear it from an expert in the field of crisis bargaining