| ▲ | lateforwork 8 hours ago |
| Stone age is old news. The latest threat is that an entire civilization will die. And yes, US backed down -- TACO Trump shows up again. |
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| ▲ | nozzlegear 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| TACO enjoyers always come out on top. |
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| ▲ | Invictus0 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | 8note 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | he's chickened out of getting regime change primarily. in terms of shifting war goals, he's chickened out on getting back to the status quo from before the war. rather than chickened out, the US is the sound loser of this war. the best outcome the US can negotiate for now is worse than what they could get before the war | |
| ▲ | matheusmoreira 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Meanwhile Iran continues to blow up oil prices which is devastating for the entire world's economy, to say nothing of the USA's economy and especially Trump's popularity. | | | |
| ▲ | outside1234 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Dude, they still have a huge drone force, or otherwise there would be tankers sailing |
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| ▲ | Alupis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > US backed down -- TACO Trump shows up again. It's stunning to me, that people still do not understand Trump's one-and-only playbook. He literally published a book about his one-and-only strategy all the way back in 1987 - yet people still freak out when he makes big demands then settles for more realistic options. The guy literally has used the same strategy over and over, and everyone acts like it's the first time every time. It's also stunning to me the very same people that were losing their minds about threatened events immediately switch into "TACO" mode when those events don't happen. In this situation, Trump made wild threats and demands if Iran didn't agree to a ceasefire. Iran initially rejected but then some 6 hours later accepted. The one-and-only playbook strikes again. |
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| ▲ | expedition32 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | He did it with Xi Jinping but the Chinese immediately responded in kind. Bullying only works against the weak. |
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| ▲ | AuryGlenz 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| How is it backing down when his threat was we’d do it if they didn’t agree to open up the strait, which is now open? I don’t like the way he does things but we’ve seen Trump’s playbook enough to see what he does. Big threat, followed by the US getting some sort of capitulation from it. He then doesn’t follow through with the threat. That’s not chickening out. That’s just negotiating with a big stick. |
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| ▲ | cosmicgadget 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > which is now open? Is it? Iran seems to be under the impression it is subject to their control. | |
| ▲ | lateforwork 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The strait is not open, Trump is pretending it is, to save face. Iran is charging $2M per ship, which will net them $90B and that is significantly higher than their oil revenue ($60B). Plus they get to keep their enriched uranium. Yes they lost some buildings and bridges but the strait fee is enough to rebuild. Iran is in a stronger position now than when the war started. TACO Trump lost the war. | | |
| ▲ | Alupis 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Iran is charging $2M per ship, Iran wants to charge $2M per ship as part of it's ceasefire conditions - which will almost certainly be rejected since that would impact every ship/nation traversing these waters. Waters that are not owned by Iran. > Plus they get to keep their enriched uranium. There's 0% chance of that happening. > Iran is in a stronger position now than when the war started. All of Iran's senior leadership are dead. Most or all of the "second-string" leadership is dead. All but their ground-force military is destroyed. | | |
| ▲ | herewulf 29 minutes ago | parent [-] | | So we go back to all out war and a closed straight when no agreement is made. The leadership clearly doesn't matter as neither the regime has collapsed nor have moderates emerged. Claims of destruction of "all" military are continually invalidated by the ongoing drone and missile strikes. |
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| ▲ | bobanrocky 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Big stick?! More like whacking himself with a big stick. Read up on his ‘playbook’ with russia, north korea, china etc .. |
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