Posts like this from the HN community are almost surreal. Any review of the actual deal would show a two week ceasefire in exchange for the strait being open and safe while negotiations continue. This 10 point plan is just a place to start talking, no country has agreed to anything on it. How is this missed on the community here?

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keyle 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Who knew tech employees weren't exactly across international politics.

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stinkbeetle 8 hours ago | parent [-]

No it would be trivial to gain a thorough understanding of Middle East politics and the oil market for an enlightened people who were able to become foremost experts in epidemiology, molecular biology, global supply chain logistics, the war in Ukraine, semiconductor manufacturing, and many other fields entirely self-taught simply by obsessively reading social media and wikipedia.

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hitekker 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Infotainment" is the term I've heard to describe Reddit and other talking websites. People are looking to "win" like they do in sports or other recreational activities. It's a kind of fun that disguises itself as learning-- minus, of course, the actual work.

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beaned 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's why people come here, they learn these things in the comments.

	▲	stinkbeetle 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's not the people who just come to learn though.

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razster 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I understand this perspective a lot more. I assume they're going to haggle and work on a few items, and adjust pieces here and there. What if they at least get sanctions lifted, that would be huge, no? Going to be an interesting couple of weeks.

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bawolff 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> This 10 point plan is just a place to start talking

Its probably not even that. PR statements for public consumption rarely reflect bargaining positions behind closed doors.

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pb7 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The community is not as sophisticated as you may perceive it to be.

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estearum 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nobody knows what "the actual deal" is because we have pathological liars on both sides (well, especially pathological on one side, most just utilitarian on the other)

Iran's version of events includes the Iranian military controlling the Strait and incurring fees.

AP is reporting Iran's version as the true one.

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refurb 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Welcome to HN where users with little domain knowledge make comments of utter certainty about any topic under the sun.

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AuthAuth 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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