I don't buy it. The only way this could be more humiliating for the US is if Trump agreed to do a public apology from Tehran. No way the Gulf countries and Israel would even entertain the thought.

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eunos 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The Gulfs would just follow whatever US wished. They also received the grim reminder that US being far away can just go at a moment notice. Iran is there for eternity figuratively speaking. They all need to learn to live together

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surgical_fire 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wonder how badly damaged the Gulf countries as Israel were in the past few days.

I have the impression a lot of the damage caused by Iran is being hidden and downplayed.

	▲	alchemism 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		None of the targets have anything remotely resembling free press. So yes, the real effects were censored.
	▲	dinkumthinkum 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		With all due respect, I feel people that hold your views would believe it if someone told them that not only did Iran complete defeat and demoralize the U.S. war power in Iran, that Iran has actually successfully bombed the U.S. into submission and the U.S. essentially no longer exists except as a vassal to Iran. I really think there is no Anti-American narrative that is too ludicrous for people that hold this view to believe. I actually find it fascinating.