| ▲ | mhitza 8 hours ago |
| Unfortunately it doesn't offer free hosting for hobbyists. Even for superficial traffic you'll have pay 1 euro a month (plus VAT). Not many DNS management providers (that I'm aware of, please correct me) support CNAME flattening. That is having your A record point to a CNAME. Every time I purge the pull zone cache, I do it twice, cause once from my CI isn't enough. My CI does individual page cache invalidation during deployment, but there needs to be some kind of delay (with no feedback) when assets are distributed across. |
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| ▲ | BarryMilo 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Other commenters laughing at you for the price... It's not about the price it's about the barrier. Even if I love a service, I won't get very many people to try it if they need to enter a credit card. |
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| ▲ | hobofan 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's also a barrier for education. Almost all technological choices I made as a teen were driven by "what hosting can I get for free, as my parents sure as hell won't put down their payment information for that". Back then that usually meant PHP and a max. 50MB MySQL. | | |
| ▲ | bombcar 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you've ever offered an online service, charging "the dollar" reduces a ton of spam/abuse you have to deal with. | | |
| ▲ | gertop 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have been the service provider who had to paywall just to stop the spammers and you're right. But it's also true that kids will be collateral damage (or anyone without a credit card). In my case, and it was the 90s, I took the time to setup a way to pay by calling a premium (1-900) for $1.49 number so the barrier to entry even for kids was still reasonable. Maybe in modern day the equivalent is adding Google pay and Apple pay then you cover some kids at least (gift cards and such). Quite the hassle for the provider, and it will turn away any person who cares about privacy. There's no way to win anymore. | | |
| ▲ | tensor 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | If a parent can buy their kid a computer, they can pay 1 euro a month for a CDN in the rare case they need it. This is a bad argument. | | |
| ▲ | zorked 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I had trouble explaining to my parents what a BBS was. I wouldn't want to explain what a CDN is. | |
| ▲ | bombcar 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think the point is that many HNer’s had parents who couldn’t or wouldn’t do “computer things” | |
| ▲ | hobofan 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Pay 1 Euro a month... or 1000s if their kid fucks up. |
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| ▲ | tensor 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If entering a credit card is too much you probably aren't a potential customer. Part of keeping a service low cost is keeping services efficient. Having a large pool of people using it for free who will never become customers will force the cost higher for those who do pay. Good riddance to the "free" model. It's never actually free. You either pay with your data, or have to consume ads, or you're forcing other customers to pay for your free usage. | |
| ▲ | fourside 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I get that credit cards are a barrier of entry but I’m more willing to give providers a break now that AI agents make it much easier to abuse free tiers. It’s also harder for smaller companies to offer free tiers. If we want a more diverse set of service providers we as customers need to be willing to accept some trade-offs. |
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| ▲ | joehart42 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| oh no a euro a month for a service. How will we financially recover? |
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| ▲ | miyuru 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | not everyone lives in the USA or earns USA based salaries. also I said this in a another thread, they charges 1$ even for single testing http request. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46873521 | | |
| ▲ | shimman 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Feel free to use local services then, not every company has to support the entire world. Some are fine with a small slice. Expecting otherwise isn't sustainable for the sub trillion dollar non-monopolists companies, not without massive public support from the government at least. | |
| ▲ | joehart42 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm not in the USA or earn USA salary but I can pay 1 euro a month for a thing. | |
| ▲ | PKop 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why would you be a useful target market for a business running these services then? Seriously, if you can't pay anything at all, of what value is catering product offerings to you? It is thus irrelevant that you aren't happy with not being offered a free service. |
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| ▲ | garganzol 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The absence of free offering is not a bug in this case, it's a feature. |
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| ▲ | rvz 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Unfortunately it doesn't offer free hosting for hobbyists. Even for superficial traffic you'll have pay 1 euro a month (plus VAT). ? So 1 euro a month is too expensive for you? Wow. Just pay the 1 Euro or go to GitHub where that is free but goes down almost every week. |
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| ▲ | pdimitar 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Man, come on now, it's 1.20 EUR a month. |
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| ▲ | mhitza 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Of course it's nothing, but it's also not a set it an forget kind of thing, which in many ways for hobbyists is why cloudflare/github pages are nice. | | |
| ▲ | shimman 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, it's nice to have a trillion+ dollar monopoly able to subsidize loss leaders to put your competitors out of business. |
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