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SanjayMehta 3 hours ago

Nonsense.

Look at the body exchange ratios. Russia exchanges 20+ bodies for each received from The Ukraine. X and Telegram channels are full of videos of freshly dug graves in The Ukraine.

Mediazona (a BBC propaganda arm) tracks obituaries in Russia and even a blatantly biased outlet is unable to prove such assertions like 20 people per hour.

Edit: since Hypocrisy News is rate limiting me I can't reply to the redditor asking for a source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg7ed4rp7x5o

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Russia exchanges 20+ bodies for each received from The Ukraine

Source?

rainworld 3 hours ago | parent [-]

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-...

1000 Ukrainians for 38 Russians. Such exchanges with similarly lopsided ratios happen every couple weeks.

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is a rather grim comment, but: when a war is fought with 155mm shells, over 100k per month, that doesn't necessarily leave bodies.

JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Article says "Russia is likely handing over more bodies than it receives since its troops have captured more Ukrainian bodies than vice versa, since they have been on the offensive for most of the war."

That could be bullshit. But it holds water as a hypothesis. If Ukraine were suffering 20:1 casualty ratios against itself on the field, Russia would have won already. There are no weapons that can overcome a small belligerent losing more bodies than the larger one.

rainworld 2 hours ago | parent [-]

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gambiting 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe it's simply because Ukrainians aren't killing Russians within territory they control, so they don't have as many bodies to exchange. Looking at body exchanges to determine the number of dead people on either side seems just...like a weird metric?

kelipso an hour ago | parent [-]

It’s a reasonable metric but it should be evaluated based on what’s happening on the ground. For example, if Russia is advancing and Ukraine is retreating, and KIA is same in each side, then Russia would pick up many more bodies to exchange than Ukraine.

bigfatkitten 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The Ukraine

The fact you use this term makes it quite clear which side you’re speaking for.

gambiting 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>>from The Ukraine

It's just Ukraine. Unless you're doing this on purpose.

>>and even a blatantly biased outlet is unable to prove such assertions like 20 people per hour

https://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-grinding-war-ukraine

It seems to hover around 30k dead a month recently, so 1000 people a day, divided by 24, that's actually ~41 people an hour.

But you know, even if we assume these numbers are wildly innacurate and only half those given...that's still 20 per hour?

>>X and Telegram channels are full of videos of freshly dug graves in The Ukraine.

No doubt, but what does that have to do with anything.

>>Edit: since Hypocrisy News is rate limiting me I can't reply to the redditor asking for a source:

So on one hand you call BBC a highly biased source, and then you link an article from it? So which one is it? Is it biased, or is it the source of your information?