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TurdF3rguson 6 hours ago

That suitcase of rice story though, I'm finding it problematic lol.

- First of all a 95% increase in the price of rice means it less than doubled which is no big deal.

- I think maybe you meant it 20x'ed ? If so I will just eat corn until it comes down (my house eats 100kg of rice in a month)

- Can a suitcase of rice even get through customs?

TheDong 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Indeed it's a roughly 2x increase (5kg supermarket bag from 2000 jpy to 4000).

Whether that's a big deal or not depends on the person, their finances, how much rice the family eats, etc etc.

thaumasiotes 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Whether that's a big deal or not depends on the person, their finances, how much rice the family eats, etc etc.

There's a nasty interaction among those concerns: as the basic staple food of the diet, rice is consumed in larger amounts by poorer people who can't afford real food, like meat.

Which means that a spike in the price of rice is effectively targeted at people who can't afford to substitute other foods.

callmeal 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>rice is consumed in larger amounts by poorer people who can't afford real food

Um, rice is real food too, right?

numpad0 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think Japanese rice-centric framing of meals is also of note, it's not universal across East Asia - I mean, allegedly, bowl of rice next to ramen is meme worthy to people from China, but it's just a menu item in Japan.

thaumasiotes 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> I mean, allegedly, bowl of rice next to ramen is meme worthy to people from China

I can't personally attest to that, but it certainly makes sense. Rice meals vs noodle meals are a fairly fundamental split in Chinese cuisine.

(It doesn't make rice any less of a staple food.)

TurdF3rguson 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Corn is still cheaper. If you're really poor in Asia you're eating corn (and complaining about it).

numpad0 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Corn??? I don't think corn in bulk is cheaply available in Japan at all. There's a mention in Wikipedia of a Chinese-Mongolian corn meal porridge thing but it looks pretty local.

TurdF3rguson 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's available but it's culturally considered a grain that you feed to livestock rather than humans. I mostly feel the same way about it TBH.

thaumasiotes 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you go into a Chinese supermarket, it will quickly become apparent that the default cooking oil is corn oil.

I find this an interesting contrast with the United States, where the default cooking oil is Canola oil (if you're a person looking to cook your own food; this is the sense in which the Chinese default is corn oil) or soybean oil (if you're a company looking to sell packaged food in grocery stores). As far as I'm aware, traditional China would have had sesame oil and maybe soybean oil, and certainly not corn oil. The advantage of corn oil must be the price.

But if corn oil is so cheap, why does the cheapest oil available in the US seem to be soybean oil?

lostlogin 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> my house eats 100kg of rice in a month

What’s the maths on that? A cup of rice would seem a fair bit for a person for a meal. A cup is about 200g.

That’s 500 portions a month. 5.5 people for 3 meals a day?

AussieWog93 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of Asian households are multi-generational, so the maths definitely checks out there.

I'm putting my money on more people (8-10) but eating less than 200g per meal (1/2 cup uncooked, ~100g for most people)

EDIT, just saw sibling, that's impressive for 5 people, unless the dogs eat a lot of rice too.

TurdF3rguson 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It fluctuates but on average maybe 5 humans and 10 dogs.

PowerElectronix 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You give rice to the dogs, too?

lostlogin 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s an amazing volume.