100% management is gone, engineers took over

Next week: “we are right-sizing the organization”

Is Heroku that expensive these days? What are extremely lower costs? In my experience DO is hella expensive.

The experience of "you push, provision databases & dependencies in 3 clicks, and it just works" is sadly still unmatched.

Strong disagree. They didn’t even invent buildpacks until 2011, the year after the acquisition.

Actually the opposite: they came into their prime after the acquisition. Probably not due to Salesforce, but still.

I can't believe that it has been over 15 years ... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1982489

It’s just in coma, slowly dying away on a respirator. Some relatives irrationally keep paying the hospital to keep the patient alive, but the doctors just wait until they can finally pull the plugs and use the bed for someone with actual chances of survival.

I think the downhill slide started when they introduced the "Private Space Peering". It is a wrapper on top of AWS VPC, but it was something like $1000 a month several years ago. It also was gating larger instances and other important features.

So few people used it. I guess this provided a negative signal to their management about the adoption rate of new features. And then everything eventually just died.

DigitalOcean is the Arduino of cloud.

True, it can't compete with AWS/GCP/Azure if you're large scale. But most of us are not large scale, we just need a no frills experience instead of dealing with 27 nested panels just to spin up a VM.

Heroku runs on AWS though, doesn’t it? They just package it.

I don’t think it’s impossible for them to survive. Salesforce bought them more than 10 years ago and did little to support growth of Heroku. And yet they’re still around and people still ask „is there something new with comparable customer experience?” because they don’t mind paying more

I've never found cloud anything to beat the speed (and price) of a well placed server.

DO has always been a bit rich for my blood though, and even a low cost hetzner VPS has less cores than I remember seeing at the same price a decade ago. I could be wrong there though I usually use Vultr for their SYD region.